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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,697 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Cool, I want all Rté officials who committed fraud and/or fiduciary negligence prosecuted…starting with Dee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    same as that…if he said he will call in the fraud squad as well i might think about it but until that day comes fcuk him and the horse he rode in on!

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,090 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Well Quid Quo Pro Mr Bakhurst only if the fraud squad is called in and if all the Rté officials who committed fraud etc are prosecuted. However, we do know that there is more chance of Gerry Adams becoming the Irish President next year than this happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.irishtimes.com/podcasts/in-the-news/will-this-golden-envelope-solve-rtes-funding-crisis/

    Explainer: Many people are no longer liable for a TV licence this is one of the major issues…. no its not…. almost everyone has a big screen TV, almost all TVs are still sold with a tuner and a satellite tuner … I know there are a few people who might have decided to go down the road of find a smart TV without a tuner but all most all are still sold with a tuner… Sky Glass has analogue turner… even sky stream box's have an analogue tuner … though they can't be used (someone confirm this)

    Ireland's high evasion rate … its because RTÉ isn't very good and the collectors aren't good at their job… there where three kind of evaders … those that ignore the letters … those that don't get letters … those that refused to pay … and now those of us who know RTÉ were lying about their finances.

    People just don't understand the concept of the licence fee… but they pay more for other services … this has always been the case … long before the streamers … long before RTÉ people were pointing to the north!

    Democracy and nationhood … forget about drama, comedy, entertainment … and how bad RTÉ do these things.

    Why did we not have an increase in the licence fee in 2008 … thanks to the green minister, who was supporting FF… so thanks now to the new Green minister.

    So they talk about it being a shortfall due to evasion … but actual what the government are doing is to add to the shortfall because there will be no increase to the 160 price … the top-up is to avoid increasing the licence fee as this would be political hell for the government … yes some of it will be due to continued evasion rates of the licence fee … but that's not the full reason. It is also to allow the funding to go slowly over to the exchequer and to help out An Post, McRedmond asked for some money in case he has to make staff redundant.

    And then they are on to the free licence … and sure doesn't RTÉ already get Exchequer funding there … yes but this is part of the DSP budget and is them paying for free licences… and the government did reduce the amount down at one stage due to the financial crisis.

    Now to the stability of RTÉ … I took a look back over the last 7 years (Dee Frobes time at the broadcaster)…. 1.3 billion … largely the same about given to them each year … averages around 190m a years… you want stability for the PUBLIC SERVICE BROADCASTER…. they always had stability .

    Oh the figures sound huge because they went with 3 years… imagine if they went with 4 years! 1billion euro over 4 years …. now that is some stability.

    Short term stability … seriously 3 years, Backhurst will be gone the following year.

    Making up strategy documents not know how much they will have ? You forecast … you talk about why you did not reach targets … but guess what none of the strategic targets have ever really been about content and RTÉ have always self-review those strategies can anyone point me to where RTÉ failed to meet a target or any real tangible ones for the audience.

    Lead times to produce TV programmes … yes… but there are live shows that can be produce tomorrow… RTÉ reduce its live news programmes and children's programming fairly instantly … they can pretty much re-introduce RTÉ NEWS on 2 tomorrow and children's programming.

    It would be bad with all this that RTÉ would have to wait 2 years to show the results to its audience.

    Discussion on other options and why did they keep this method… yeah! … but she can say that they might have 150m a year in advertising … no way they have stability there!… and back to Pat Rabbitte's argument when he was minister due to the water charges … same old talking points really.

    Is it enough ? (they don't answer this really, but their answer is no!)

    RTÉ asked for more … then she goes through the strategy ! and the cuts that will not happen … IMO.

    Did the minister say what it should be spend on?

    Well she should not get to … but she should see some plans for content and for the audience… sadly this is all about cuts and nothing more … hopeful to retain what we have rather than to change RTÉ for the audience.

    They then say that RTÉ has statutory commitments towards certain content (I'd argue that is in Irish Language content rather then any other genre).

    And sure look at RTÉ Investigates programming… yes this is part of news and current affairs.

    Oh she's just realized that RTÉ don't spend much on Drama outside of Fair City (she says 6m, I'd argue more like 3m from that fund she talks about, with another 3m on Irish drama co-pro and imports, potentiality less).

    Then she attacks the politicians when they ask "as to why aren't you doing this and that", but she forget this was when Dee Frobes went in and said that Normal People cost 3m per episode, Drama is expensive but look at what RTÉ had done in the pass with Bachelor's walk, paths to free, can't cope won't cope and even some of the TG4 dramas. The Quite Girl was produced on 1.4m while RTÉ were off spending 2.4m on a musical.

    We need a grown up view on how much it cost to operate, has she looked at what these people did over the last 7 to 10 years?

    Back to the license fee and evasion and An Post. We need a database of those that should pay! The presenter says there doesn't seem to be an acknowledgement that the world has change… what about An Post why can't they do their job?

    Pat Rabbitte did nothing … linear and watching programming… like almost every house has a TV… even student houses… people want that big screen … to watch sport and film.

    VMTV … bet they do not mention their 4 channels … being just an opt-out service … and also that they have more ad minutes … a similar budget if not more than TG4… when UTV Ireland came in it over shot on news coverage… it took about 3 years after the takeover of UTV Ireland for VMTV to revert back to what TV3 had being providing… there are 150 -200 staff in VMTV … how many are journalists? … the report from the wax works on Sinead O'Connor sounded like a intern. … much of VMTV's news was driven by UTV Ireland and Mick McCafterty (though this has fallen away sadly).

    They axed news on the weekend. She forgets that they did this on the launch of Xpose, and again the weekend news largely return because they had a competitor in UTV Ireland.

    They have massively reduce down in terms of VMTV, in fairness just didn't show their cuts. with the exception of the Elaine show.

    Then back to political pressure.

    Sorry for the rant.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar



    😶

    Holy fook!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Also you can't get much more consistent than

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    2020 is covid year and this are operating costs total revenue was 331m in 2020, same as 2021 operating costs.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭Archeron


    What perfect timing from Bakhurst, just as people are reeling at the amount of 'sorry you got found out' money being given, he decides now is the time to start being threatening.

    Fcuk you Bakhurst and Fcuk you RTE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So I checked out RTÉ's last decade of Revenue.

    The average revenue each years was €337m (consistent increases since 2013, bar 2020, which is COVID year)

    RTÉ should largely have been able to forecast their income based on this hindsight.

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    And its a great graph above because it makes it look like RTÉ saw a massive drop in 2020 but that's only 10m off the previous year and remains above both 2014 and 2013.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,090 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,090 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,974 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,974 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,901 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Good letter in today's IT (not from me BTW 😁 )

    Sir, – RTÉ's boss Kevin Bakhurst says “If there’s no jeopardy in not paying your licence fee, it becomes extremely difficult to collect”, when asked if people should be prosecuted for evasion (News, July 25th).

    Clearly, there wasn’t much jeopardy for RTÉ for its bad practices over the years, to say the least, with the Government’s reward of guaranteed funding to the tune of €725 million for the next three years. As Judge Anthony Halpin said last July, it saddened him that those before the court, “who are crippled with the cost of living, have to swallow the unpalatable pill of the licence fee when they see such a source of income is squandered and abused” (News, September 15th, 2023).

    Let us hope that this new planned funding will not be squandered with such reckless abandonment. – Yours, etc,

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭monkeyactive


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,974 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Ireland's high evasion rate … its because RTÉ isn't very good and the collectors aren't good at their job… there where three kind of evaders … those that ignore the letters … those that don't get letters … those that refused to pay … and now those of us who know RTÉ were lying about their finances.

    As that poster said, evading the license is not exactly difficult. I'm kind of confused how people actually get caught. I imagine, their numbers for evasion are way off. The only indicator they have that lots more people are evading now is because of the drop in revenue since Tubridy-gate.

    60m divided by 160 euros, is 375,000 people evading the license. I'd be amazed if its not way more than that.

    My sister was in a house share when she was in college, one of the guys in the house was leaving one day and there was a TV License inspector outside and asked him if they had a TV License, the guy told him he'd been in the house for a house party and then asked the inspector if he knew where he could get a taxi in the area.

    Since Covid, I actually wonder how many inspectors are actually still going around. Presumeably they stopped when COVID happened, did someone tell them to go back out there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,435 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Still no consequences for the Breda handshake of 400k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,654 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,090 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    If you are a FFG supporter, do you defend this? If you do, why?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,654 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I don't think RTE should get a bailout, the redundancy exit packages stopped, top wages slashed etc., fraud charges brought, get Revenue and AGS involved, sell Montrose etc., even try to get money back



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,435 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Quite the nerve of Kevin Bakhurst to complain on Twitter about Twitter.

    He needs to get his own house in order and start sacking people and reducing the wage bill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,654 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Kevin Backarse should go, he has done nothing since taking over, useless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,654 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,974 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Joe Duffy, 350K a year for 6 hours work a week.

    2187 people need to pay their TV license just to pay for Joes salary.

    So yes, Kevin Backhurts needs to get his house in order before he opens his mouth on Twitter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,090 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    By the way I was not insinuating that you are a FFG, I was talking to the FFG cheerleaders on here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,090 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    I don't think you are. See my post above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,654 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    We All Good @skimpydoo

    BTW I do not think I am a cheerleader for any of the parties currently, disgusted with them all if I am honest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,090 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Oh I know you are not a cheerleader for any of the current government parties. I was talking about the usual suspects on here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Ah if you remember RTÉ have taken full responsibility for that even offering to pay her tax bill due to the error cause, when she was CFO!

    Really RTÉ should release the text message that she sent and her email to the DG asking for him to make a representation for her to the Oireachtas Committee.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Don't forget that there is also tax (Income Tax, Employee PRSI, Employer PRSI and USC) on the tax Kelvin is paying for Breda, as the payment of an employee's tax is a Benefit In Kind.



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