Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

It's the referendum all over again.

They really need to get rid of MLMD, her decisions of late have been awful and it's really damaging the party.

Oh great more archaic human rights laws tying our hands behind our backs.

If I thought for one minute you were posing genuine questions and your post was not just an attempt to defend one particular political party, I'd engage and give you decent answers, but as it stands, I couldn't be arsed

I'll just give you a little taster - Simply the threat of doing what I proposed would be enough to light a fire under the airlines - but it would need a Govt that has just a smidge of competence - This FG Govt can be accused of many things, being competent is not one of them

It's a pathetic loophole. You need id to board a flight. Dumping the passport should be means for immediate deportation. And a criminal conviction. Both fast tracked.

Such a pathetic response to a genuine post.

I asked you to expand on your "new rules" idea and you have deflected and decided im some kind of government shill.

Will try once more to ask you to explain these new rules you propose to resolve the refugee crisis.

How many immigration officials would you propose to be hired to implement this new rule?

How many officials per arriving flight would be assigned to check the 180-300+ passengers and how long would this on average take?

Leaving all that aside we have a land border with NI. What is your solution there? Maybe 1000 per shift on all the routes in and out?

And also ferry ports how many staff are required there in your new rules plan?

airlines wont take a passenger with no ID, remember?

With aircraft landing every five mins in Dublin airport, this requires a lot of staff?

Change the rules. If they won't don't let said airline operate.

Right....so f#$k the small bit of tourism that the place might benefit from as they're not on a par with locations widely known for tourism.

You sell it so well that you should get a job with the local tourist board -"Come to Drogheda, from here you can drive to other places to spend your money".

Christenings/communions/weddings generally don't appear in tourist guides because they are almost exclusively private events.

Accommodation needs to be paid for as does food for private events……but using that metric, the town would be better off with hotels full of asylum seekers rather than half full of tourists checking out the local communion scene. The former needs to eat and sleep as well.

What is the booking of a hotel for asylum seekers if not a massive, prolonged, private event?

Argue "We just don't want those people here" if you want. But if you argue "my concern is really for the local tourist economy" well you are leaving yourself open to easy dismantling.

hotels being used for AS comes at a cost, the cost of the taxpayer. So no it’s not better than hotels being used for tourism etc

You are entitled to advocate and agitate for individual own-door accommodation for the AS if you like. I won't support you on that.

If you don't like them being put into converted warehouses, and you don't like them being put into hotels, then you are eventually manipulating it so that that is the only option. Some people are being sneaky about their motivations, but logic shows their actual intentions.

But govt policy is to stall, delay, keep the NGOs happy (as who knows when the govt minister may need a cushy number when he/she loses their seat), refuse to consult with the irish people and line the pockets of hotel owners and others who benefit from what is actually happening.

Then declare an amnesty for 17000 illegal immigrants. Then rents get driven up because demand far outstrips supply and tell me, just how many TDs are landlords ......

Rinse and repeat. There is no controls in place and the govt have no plans to put any in because well ......money money money.

Or better still, what links have hotel owners with contracts with DOI are mates/business partners with govt ministers??

All our leading political parties, FF, FG, SF, Greens, SD and Labour all sing off the same hymn sheet here. So people feel they have no other option other then protest violently and light fires because they simply aren't being respected or listened to.

Even after crown paints was torched what, 5 times last week, Roderic still insists on pushing 500 illegal immigrant men there. And in a few years time it will be a lot more then 500 there.

I find posts like yours really cruel. The argument seems to be "[x place] has its troubles, so it's okay to bring in thousands of mostly men from dysfunctional cultures with nothing to do all day, and allocate huge resources to them while enriching a small number of connected people." We aren't allowed anecdotes here, but I have many to illustrate how it harms local people's wellbeing and safety as well as their livelihoods. I don't know why people like you have such contempt for a place like Drogheda which has many decent people trying against the odds to make it a better place. The loss of the D hotel was a massive blow to the town's economy from which it may never recover; it has impacted not just tourism in the area but the town's ability to host events, whether family, corporate or arts. A lot of public funding has been invested in developing and promoting Ireland's Ancient East, and it's been a huge slap in the face for people who have worked on that.

I feel a sense of hopelessness when I read posts from people with such a self-hating attitude to their own community and culture while endlessly prioritising people from everywhere else and presenting them as vulnerable and worthy of help even when presented with facts that point otherwise. I know what used to be the Left in Ireland is unrecognisable, Sinn Fein have abandoned any pretence of nationalism and NGOs have become their own powerful vested interests, sucking up public funds while dominating the airwaves. The values I grew up with like civic pride in your neighbourhood and country, have become something to be scoffed at and reframed as backward and unenlightened. Wanting to preserve the best of what you grew up with, the social cohesion and shared values is seen as "far right"

I have never felt such a disconnect between this government and ordinary people and their interests. Most people I know fear speaking up because the kind of people who dominate this discussion will actively try to ruin your life, snitch on you to your employer, publicly shame you. I've seen it. They are the new clergy. And yes, as a precious poster said, they seem to hate the Irish.