Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

Penn · 23-07-2024 10:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415188#Comment_122415188

Oh I think there are plenty of criticisms against Trump which will be focused on far more. Even Kamala was talking about her experience as an attorney and dealing with guys who sexually assault women, who are conmen, criminals etc, and so she knows guys like Donald Trump.

The point about Trump's age is simply that the majority of criticisms levelled at Biden for when he trailed off, misspoke, got names/details wrong, Trump now becomes more of a target for it. The age-related spotlight hasn't been turned off, it'll now be shining on Trump, and Trump mostly got away with it just because Biden was slightly worse. The Republicans and the media focused so much on Biden's age-related issues that they now can't ignore when Trump does the same and why their previous criticism and concern for Biden doing it now doesn't apply to Trump.

Trump doesn't look or move as frail and old as Biden has the last few years, but he speaks gibberish and nonsense all the time. And he's now offically the oldest nominee in history. He's now the target for any age-related concerns if he flubbs his lines.

Hoop66 · 23-07-2024 10:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415278#Comment_122415278

The Republicans and the media focused so much on Biden's age-related issues that they now can't ignore when Trump does the same and why their previous criticism and concern for Biden doing it now doesn't apply to Trump.

They can, and they will.

duploelabs · 23-07-2024 10:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122413195#Comment_122413195

Indeed, Gabbard isn't sketchy as a source whatsoever

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/23/tulsi-gabbard-repeats-false-hillary-clinton-grooming-claim

Penn · 23-07-2024 10:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415333#Comment_122415333

Well, some parts of the media anyway. If anything they'll have to be seen to comment on Trump's age so as to not seem unbiased.

Christy42 · 23-07-2024 10:39AM

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I don't think age will be the big point but it just undercuts a lot of what the Republicans have been saying. Rapist felon vs DA seems a bigger winner.

As for Trump he definitely sounds worse than 30 years ago. I remember there was a tape of a court appearance he seemed to be able to make coherent sentences. He was obviously a terrible human being but he is either less willing or able to to put up the act of a competent human being. Unless he shows he can put the act back on it is at least an issue if not the biggest of his flaws.

I can't call him particularly sharp either. The rant about electric boat batteries was hardly sharp and seems to be his level without prompts.

McFly85 · 23-07-2024 10:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415229#Comment_122415229

Kelly would be a smart pick - well regarded American hero type, would be difficult to see Trump relentlessly attacking him and coming out well from it. And you would imagine he would destroy Vance in a debate.

As you say, the democrats have an advantage now because they gave options and they know what they’re against. If they play it well they’re still in with a good chance.

23-07-2024 11:05AM

The Republicans said that Bidens age was an issue as he was in decline. They ALSO said that Trump displayed a lot more energy than Biden and his age didnt seem like an issue.

Democrats said that age is not an issue. They also stated that Trump was ALSO declining.

The evidence proved true that Biden declined a lot. The same cant be said for Trump. Could you imagine it was Biden who was shot at? God forbid!! He wouldnt have been able to get down as quick as Trump did. We would be talking about absolute disaster for the world. Look at the rubbish going on right now trying to figure out what happened. Could you imagine these investigations were asking why Biden was killed? Literal war would break out. But thats another topic. The point is that Bidens age was an issue which is not comparable to Trumps (at least yet).

The funny part is that Democrats are now claiming age is an issue afterall!!

As for calling out the media!!! Acting like the media like Trump!

everlast75 · 23-07-2024 11:06AM

The age thing must have worried trump enough to have him comment on it...

78 = young

81 = old

I can see now why he struggled giving accurate measurements to his NY apartment

Overheal · 23-07-2024 11:10AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415551#Comment_122415551

You seem worried 😁

duploelabs · 23-07-2024 11:18AM

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'pole numbers'?

eightieschewbaccy · 23-07-2024 11:19AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415606#Comment_122415606

The Polish deserve recognition!

23-07-2024 11:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415571#Comment_122415571

Why would I be worried? I am Irish. I live in Ireland 😂

Just pointing out how silly the whole conversation is. Up to last week everyone was saying that Bidens age wasnt an issue. No wall of a sudden age is! It seems to me that the Anti Trump brigade from their opinions with their hearts and not their heads.

McFly85 · 23-07-2024 11:24AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415556#Comment_122415556

Also, isn’t the Border Czar thing total nonsense?

As for his attack on Kamala’s pole numbers

Penn · 23-07-2024 11:25AM

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The defence of Biden over his age was that yeah, he's older and stumbles over his words more, but there wasn't and still aren't signs of any actual cognitive impairment that would affect his role as President. However a lot of Dems didn't want him to run again at all. He did, and he did well enough to win the Primaries. Add in that the incumbent President always has an advantage in an election (with Trump being the one of the few incumbent Presidents to fail to be re-elected).

So Biden had a lot going for him despite his age and while he stumbled over his words more and moved a lot slower. But the issues with his age became more and more evident even after the Primaries and with Trump becoming more likely to beat Biden, it became right for Biden to step down even after winning the Primaries.

23-07-2024 11:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415634#Comment_122415634

I agree. Bidens age wasnt an issue in my opinion. I think his stumbles were. My Grandfather was Bidens age and was doing the Dublin Marathon every year. People age differently. He did have a really bad debate and has been like this for awhile. Whether that was age or something else, it was happening. If your president needs to only work 11 to 4 then that is not great. If that is the president of the USA, then that is worrying. The US President needs to be ready to jump out of bed at 3 in the morning and make world/history changing decisions. Biden doesnt seem capable of that right now. The public do not feel he is.

Dubinusa · 23-07-2024 11:38AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122413638#Comment_122413638

Of course I will vote for whoever puts cash in my pocket. But if it's at the cost of paying more taxes, meaning less in my pocket...

I didn't vote in the last election. To me, it's your fecked if you do and fecked if you don't.

Dubinusa · 23-07-2024 11:39AM

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Meaning?

Overheal · 23-07-2024 11:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415619#Comment_122415619

Yeah, you're clearly worried, that's why your account only started posting in these US centric threads in the last few days.

Leroy42 · 23-07-2024 11:46AM

A major problem for Trump is not so much his condition today, but at 78 he will be turning 80 during his next term and could easily suffer the same rapid decline that Biden did.

The real issue for Biden was not so much that he performed badly in the debate. However, it was terrible, but everyone realised that he was only going one way and that he couldn't possibly be expected to perform for another 4 years.

That spotlight will now turn to Trump

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-07-2024 11:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415556#Comment_122415556

77 was too old four years ago…

23-07-2024 11:56AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415700#Comment_122415700

And how does me posting on an Irish Boards change the US election?

I think you might be over estimating how much influence you have.

I am posting about a topic I have an interest in.

Overheal · 23-07-2024 11:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415772#Comment_122415772

oh, so you are worried.

23-07-2024 12:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415778#Comment_122415778

So there was two camps

One was pro Trump:

They kept saying Biden was declining. They said Biden wouldnt have a chance,

Second camp was anti Trump:

They said Biden was fine and was 100% going to win.

In the last few weeks, which side do you think have been correct? IF I was a pro Trumper, dont you think I would be more happy at being proven right than worried? Only one side seems to be caught being wrong here.

ronjo · 23-07-2024 12:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415799#Comment_122415799

you have a point there but its patently obvsious that the Second camp are FAR happier with the Biden step down.

Some of the rants about coups etc have been beyond embarrassing.

Overheal · 23-07-2024 12:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415799#Comment_122415799

I remember so-called camp one over egging their pudding and saying things like Biden was “ completely senile” etc. While the second camp acknowledged, he was not the same man that he was 10 20 30 years ago. And I don’t remember the second camp ever saying that Biden had a 100% chance of winning. Can you find a source for that quote?

Christy42 · 23-07-2024 12:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415799#Comment_122415799

I believe most in the 2nd camp favoured a younger candidate but mostly just figured Biden was better than Trump.

As for age you have to admit it is embarrassing to have most of the attack lines you have been using applying more to your own candidate than the opposition.

Pro trumpers seem far more unhappy about Biden pulling out of the race than Democrats judging from the response so far. That might be the difference, Republicans are more a cult of personality with no one of Trump's stature ready to step up. Democrats were able to switch candidates late in the day, neuter most of the opposition talking points while maintaining the same policies and get a boost in the polls and funding.

Quin_Dub · 23-07-2024 12:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415668#Comment_122415668

The US President needs to be ready to jump out of bed at 3 in the morning and make world/history changing decisions.

Which is why the flak will focus on Trump now , remember his famous "executive time" whch was basically code for "can't be arsed to do any work".

The Democrats couldn't really say much about Trumps general indolence and his utter disdain for the actual "work" of being President as people would simply though back nonsense about how "Joe Biden doesn't know what day it is" etc.

Now though , they have a free shot at all of Trumps weaknesses - He's fundamentally lazy , he loves the rallies etc. as the adulation feeds his narcissism , but can anyone really see Trump sitting in the oval office on the phones burning the midnight oil rallying congress to get a bill passed??

Overheal · 23-07-2024 12:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415970#Comment_122415970

don’t forget the record breaking amount of golf Trump played as president.

I don’t think Kamala golf’s?

Overheal · 23-07-2024 01:00PM

cuckoo bird

https://www.mediaite.com/news/we-are-witnessing-the-power-of-god-trump-basks-in-bonkers-fan-rant-claiming-trump-chosen-by-god/

Quin_Dub · 23-07-2024 01:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122416076#Comment_122416076

It's a cult , plain and simple and he feeds off their delusion and adoration.

Not a chance he'd try to moderate that or get them to dial back even slightly..

Malignant Narcissist of the worst kind.

Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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