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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    Wrong colour and bitched slapped trump verbally to many times for that to happen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    For years you've been bleating on in here that Biden wasn't up to the job, now he's withdrawn from the race you've decided to be upset on his behalf. You really do tie yourself up in knots.

    Obama actually favours an open nomination process, so if Harris gets the gig without one that wouldn't really back up your narrative about his all pervasive influence on the Democratic party.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    for the same reason Jeffries and Schumer aren’t endorsing anyone prior to convention either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Where is Joe? does he know yet he is stepping down?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    A good yarn to keep him separated from his family, is he a vaccine skeptic or something?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,258 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Where's Trump's medical report post shooting?

    All we have is Good Time Ronny's word.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,258 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Its the manner in which he has been forced to withdraw from the race.

    Up until the debate a month ago, the party line and indeed that of most of his cheerleaders on here was that he was as sharp as a tack.

    The rumours of his cognitive decline we were told were deceitful editing or conspiracy theories and far right lies.

    Any talk of Biden being stood down and replaced by Harris were bunkum.

    Then suddenly the narrative has completely changed.

    Biden has to be pulled.

    Why ? his condition hasnt accelerated in the last month, he clearly has had cognitive issues for a long time and these have been concealed and covered up.

    The Emperor has no clothes.

    Ive been critical of Biden, yes but he is by and large a decent man and doesnt deserve to be treated like this by a party he has given his life to.

    Loyalty is a fine quality but in excess it fills political graveyards.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    As for Obama, I wouldnt believe a word out of that mans mouth, he will say one thing publicly but privately think the opposite.

    His statement on Biden yesterday was completely disengenuous, Obama has been working behind the scenes to oust Biden.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,258 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "I've been critical of Biden, yes but he is by and large a decent man and doesn't deserve to be treated like this by a party he has given his life to."

    Kinda like Pence, and Trump's goons trying to hang him on Jan 6th eh?

    Fairly quiet about that though, curiously...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Always trying to change the subject, always deflecting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    Is he dead?👀

    Wtf is he?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,074 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    What is this low level concern-trolling nonsense?

    He is recovering from Covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The only deflection is from you whenever you are asked a question that highlights the inconsistency and contradictions and double standards in your posts on US politics.

    Zero unprompted criticisms of Trump and Republicans.

    It is obvious you have no regard for Biden and this is a pretence to post criticisms of other Democrats.

    Your lack of similar posts that would see you criticise Republicans demonstrates the pretence in your posts to be false.

    Where are your posts from the forum from before the debate calling Biden a decent man?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,260 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Do people think it credible that senior Dems people should have stayed in sync with Biden,(because he's a nice guy) knowing it would fail and also affect the House and Senate races? This is politics and politics requires you to make tough decisions and may not make up popular always.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Cody montana




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    No its not credible... transparently so as a line of attack.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Thats rich, talking about double standards and inconsistencies.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,074 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Up until the debate a month ago, the party line and indeed that of most of his cheerleaders on here was that he was as sharp as a tack.

    Everyone and their dog knew he was in decline. The debate simply put it front and centre. Trump is also in decline, but currently not at the same level as Biden.

    It was the job of his aides and party to cover that as much as possible and get him over the line. It works exactly the same way for Trump and his gaffes and issues. Didn't look good for Biden, so he stepped aside.

    Should he have done this earlier? Possibly, but the political playbook (on both sides) leans heavily against replacing the incumbent. So it's relatively understandable in those circumstances.

    Anyone acting all "confused" about this is playing partisan games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Textbook deflection.

    Proves my point. You couldnt find posts pre debate where you expressed respect for Biden or called him a decent man.

    Entirely discrediting of your line of attack here.

    So expressing the sentiments now rings hollow... transparently it is only done now to serve as basis for attack on other Democrats.

    Yeah thats rich alright.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Everyone and their dog knew he was in decline.

    Not on here they didnt.

    Any time anyone said Biden was in cognitive decline, it was dismissed as trolling.

    It was a stammer we were told, he has a lifelong stammer.

    I could easily go back through all these excuses trotted out, if I had the time.

    So the question is did these posters actually believe what they were saying or were they being disengenuous and deceitful.

    Or maybe they were just playing partisan games as you put it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    It is the same nonsense about folks still moaning 8 years later about Independent Bernie not getting the red carpet treatment into the role of party that people have spent their lives building.

    Politics is ruthless, when it isn't you're very likely to be on the losing side. During the 2020 primaries plenty tried to push Biden out early but he fought through it got momentum and then bent the other candidates into coalescing around him. What Biden saw over the last few weeks is the other side of it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    The only person trying to do the deflecting is you.

    It wont work.

    The last time I posted on this thread back in June I posted a Biden faux pas and said Biden wasnt playing with a full deck.

    Your riposte was

    "The 'centrists' getting ever more desperate in their attempts to re-throw MAGA mud at Biden. Predictable "nothing burger".

    Nothing burger eh ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,074 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Cut the dramatics. Trump is already displaying signs, are you "concerned" over that? No.

    It's BS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ive been critical of Biden, yes but he is by and large a decent man and doesnt deserve to be treated like this by a party he has given his life to.

    This is the first positive thing you've ever said about the man.

    Couldn't be a more superficial character if you tried.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    It's Joever

    or is it?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Oscarmadison posted this link in mid June, about 9 days before the debate

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13481849/democrat-plot-biden-replacement-clinton-obama-pelosi-schumer.html

    Now DailyMail.com has learned that if Joe stumbles in that first face-off with Trump or if his polling numbers keep falling, it'll take a united front of the liberal grandees to make
    Joe throw in the towel.

    'The only people who could force him out would be Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer,' one Democratic strategist told DailyMail.com. 'It would have to be the four of them collectively

    and said it may become a reality

    Here are a few of the constructive replies to his assertion

    It's not even speculation, it's purely hypothetical garbage - Podge_irl

    Keep buying those lottery tickets, dreams do come true (at odds of millions to one) - Duploelabs

    These rumors persist because the right doesn’t want to race against
    Biden. They’d prefer anyone else but the clean nosed Catholic they can’t
    even lay an email server on. And ain’t it just a treat that these
    rumors swirl around every name on the left that the right has built its
    entire base around despising and getting out their vote for? - Overheal

    the repeated claims by the GOP and their flacks that "the Democrats are
    planning to replace Biden any day now" are utter nonsense. -Quin_Dub

    Clearly between the Daily Mail junk article, what I'm seeing from
    Trumplodyte friends on FB, and now Fox news, the "Biden is too
    unhealthy" thing is "in the air." Probably because Ukraine's making
    progress in their war and so RuZZia needs to stir up the useful idiots -
    not you, but whoever fed the glurge to the Daily Mail or Fox news.

    Anyway, when you see it, just let it go. It's nonsense and just a CFTrump-favoring whataboutism. - Igotadose

    Nobody's taking anything badly. You made a hysterical claim and pasted a
    link to the Daily Mail, a well known spreader of fake news. People gave
    it the curt dismissal it warranted. -ancapailldorcha

    Before the last election we were told he was definitely going to be replaced at the convention , then after that we were told he was definitely going to (be forced to ) resign and allow Harris to become President and now we're back to "He's definitely going to be replaced at/before the convention".

    It's simply not going to happen. -Quinn_Dub

    Those lottery tickets sure paid off.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,458 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    What does that mean, "politicians like power" … trite and irrelevant in the circumstances.

    Really?

    Biden was supposed to be the guy to beat Trump in 2020 and hand the batton to someone else.

    Instead he hung on for dear life, with his inner team (Including Harris), hiding him from the public at all costs. Then we had the infamous debate performance and even still Biden wanted to hang on….

    So yea, Poltiicans like power. And the main reason he was pushed was that the Congressional party who wanted to keep their seats, knew that a Biden ticket would have been a disaster for them.



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