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All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2024 (Munster And Leinster Championships,Liam McCarthy Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭almostover


    It's not the referee's job to create 'a game for the ages' or 'to let the game flow'. Their job is to apply the rules of the sport in a consistent manner.

    For me, Johhny Murphy was quite good in general. But he didn't have the stones to make 2 big calls. Send off David McInerney for the trip 10mins from time, and call back the final shot for a blatant jersey pull.

    The 1st of those decisions is inexplicable. He correctly gave a 20m free to Cork, thus acknowledging the foul. Therefore, it had to be a 2nd yellow for McInerney. I'd defy anyone to claim otherwise, except maybe a black card but the end result is the same. But Murphy decided he 'didn't want to ruin the game' by applying the rules of said game, and issuing the warranted 2nd yellow card. Either we have rules or we don't. Doesn't matter if it's the 1st round of the league or the AI final, the rules are the same.

    Finally, is there anything to be said for getting proper umpires for AI championship games. And by that I mean not just 4 lads the ref has rounded up! Surely be to Christ, 4 intercounty referees could be used for the final at least? One from each province. A blatant 65 missed for Cork, again I'm guessing because the umpires weren't too enthused about making a bold but correct decision.

    We're a long way off professionalism in the GAA, which is a pity given the efforts of the players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭supernova5


    for a rugby man you got that analysis spot on, Clare the better team and only for their dreadful inaccuracy would have 4/5 points to spare in normal time



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭supernova5


    yea criminally overlooked in every game for a good number of years now, what a warrior and critical to that team



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    Cork scored 0-10 from frees, Clare 0-3. Cork can thank the ref for making it a contest after they collapsed and lost a seven point lead.



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not sure what his point is. Any ref the aim is to get the big calls right. Murphy didnt. Based on that he had a poor game. Simple really. If the ten percent of calls are non game deciding calls then nobody cares.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,567 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The media and pundits have effectively made it the referees job to not blow the whistle so as to allow the game flow. Refs who apply the rules are often criticised for being "too fussy". Pundits have said that red cards "ruin the spectacle".

    It's easy to understand why blatant fouls like jersey pulling, throwing the ball, grabbing the hurley etc are not being penalised. There's huge pressure and expectation on referees to let these things go, even though they are explicitly against the rules of the sport.



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Were they 10 frees? And 3 frees? Thats all that matters. The stats are irrelevant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    They need to remove Extra time for finals. The players were falling apart after giving it absolutely everything. For the odd year a reply happens 2 Extra weekends won't ruin the year.

    And who's going to complain watching another final.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,878 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Had the better of Darragh Fitzgibbon today which was huge for Clare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭17togo


    Ah he has to be a professional wind up merchant do. I was thinking it after the way he was talking after they beat limerick.

    But fair play to him he's good at what he does!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Seadin


    Not Corks fault that Clare gave them frees away?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Ref decisions today karma for Cork for inflicting Colm Lyons on the Galway/Dublin match; the 'net has a medium-term memory!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭BQQ


    if Clare had lost they’d be the ones howling at the referee now

    Black card not given when pulled down in for a goal in extra time

    Free count heavily in cork’s favour

    Cork got a free in front of the posts for an off the ball jersey pull in the first half ( how many times did that happen in the game, but only cork get a free for it)


    It’s easy to pick these out in hindsight.

    Cork are obviously going to be bitter after losing a close game, as Clare would have been if they were on the wrong side of it, but the fact is the best team won



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭almostover


    I agree with you, so called hurling experts trying to 'protect the game'. Never recall the game being about pulling jerseys, tripping players, pulling on them with the hurley, dragging them to the ground and pushing your forearm into their face. Sure why call it hurling. Why not 30 lads in field with hurleys lacing into each other?

    The likes of Jackie Tyrell and 'Dalo' have a lot to answer for....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,567 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Yeah. The GAA need to lay down a marker with pundits and the media so that referees can properly officiate a game without being open to criticism for doing that. Or if their main concern is "letting games flow" then the GAA need to state that and that obvious fouls like jersey pulls, tripping, throwing etc are permitted and will no longer be penalised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Just don't know was it a black card offence. The Clare goalie and covering defender were at least as near to the breaking ball as would be the attacking Cork player had he not been pulled back; don't think it was a clear goal-scoring chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 LV-426


    Just thinking it's a pity the all Ireland hurling final isn't played in September these days. If it was there's a fair few posters on here who would be tucked up in bed for school in the morn rather than posting bitter shite on here. Gobshites



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,567 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The rule doesn't mention the term "clear goal scoring chance". It simply mentions denial of a "goal scoring opportunity", which is what it was.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Make no mistake lads, the inevitable is coming down the line. We postpone it for one more year, but it's coming;



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭BQQ


    Was actually referring to a foul on a Clare player in extra time

    Just to point out that both sides would have similar complaints if they were on the wrong side of the result



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭17togo


    😂😂

    Impressive bullshittery all the same. Fair play to you, you'll be right eventually all the same. Cork will probably win an all Ireland again sometime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    Shanagher should really give his medal to Hoggy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭JKerova1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,835 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Congrats to Clare

    What a way to win it, delighted for Lohan (he basically leveled Davys Clare managerial achievements in a single season)

    Cork should be proud of there performance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭caddy16


    As a Clareman, delighted to beat them. The most ungracious fans to ever set foot in Croke Park. Complain away....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    Brian Lohan has been manager for five seasons. Fitzgerald won an All Ireland with Clare in his second season. I realise "Davy" is a soft target but an occasional smattering of truth and context is no load. Both managers did a world of good for Clare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    Actually I think you'll find that the stats are all that matters. The scoreboard doesn't really do the qualitative stuff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,854 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    I see few journalists saying Cork were " robbed"

    As a Corkman all I can say is garbage to that notion.

    Clare were the better team and Cork were no better than in second gear for most game. I suppose that's worst bit from cork point of view.

    But Cork can blame the ref all they like but we simply were second best. Clare were more ruthless.

    Cork are too nice. Gets you nowhere. Limerick, Tipp and Kilkenny all had it. Having sympathy for themselves and it will be another 20 years waiting. Cork will have become tough.

    Blaming the ref is laughable.

    It would have been "robbery" if Cork did win it.

    EVENFLOW



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