?????? v Trump (and one or two others) The US Presidential election 2024. Read OP before posting

None that I know of. But no doubt a Harris win would result in an avalanche of grandstanding identity politics nonsense, on par with maga, just on the other side. And a lot of white guys want to avoid the fate of having to hear that for 4 years.

Women and minorities dont work the same as a white male is pretty much the historic standard.

When a white guy (other than DT) wins the race the entire white male population doesnt have a public moment. Just another old white guy in a suit. No big change. Nothing new. Old white guy 1 or old white guy 2. So what.

But if Harris wins then life will basically become a Beyonce video for 4 years. It will all be obnoxious identity politics.

The thoughts of just having to hear it will be enough to move huge numbers of votes.

https://x.com/AdamJSmithGA/status/1814723038564192535

“She prosecutes sex predators, he is one” Kamala will have a lot of lines of attack on the Donald

Maybe a minority woman can indeed win it.

That wasnt the point.

If theyd gone with a white male (or even a non-white male) that would be taken as a compromise by a lot of white male voters, as it looks like an end to the identity politics, of which so many are fatigued.

And if you think that Harris winning wont result in a torrent of p.c. nonsense and endless identity politics youre living under a rock. It will be -isms and -phobias and raised rainbow fists and cis this and privilege that til the cows come home. A reverse Trump, rather than middle ground sanity.

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Aaron Sorkin (West Wing) suggested Mitt Romney as Democratic presidential candidate... that seems a bit too Hollywood but what about as VP. Hmm.

Unless Harris was to come out and say she wouldn't seek the nomination Joe had to endorse her or he would be seen to think she would not be a good president.

That's not a good look when she's supposed to be president if something happened to Joe.

Did you watch the debate where, at one point, Biden completely lost his train of thought in the middle of a sentence, and then finished his piece (such as it was) with "….we beat Medicaid….", and a totally vacant expression on his face? He was showing some pretty obvious signs of encroaching senility, and it was laid bare on that night. This was before he had to be walked off the stage by his wife. The only thing he's done wrong in this whole episode is that he waited at least a year too long to make this decision.

There was no Democratic primary. His main 'rival' was Dean Phillips who Jon Stewart pointed out doesn't even look like a real person, but like the stock model in a print ad for washing powder. Obviously Dean is a real person, but the point was that he was just put up as a generic placeholder because the protocol has been for quite a while that you don't run against an incumbent. His expectation of beating Biden for the nomination was about as sincere as the Chondoist Chongu Party's efforts to score a majority in the North Korean legislature.

And this was before Biden's humiliating and rather concerning debate performance. Old Dean might have nearly been in with a shout if the timing had been different.

Frankly, this stuff about democracy being upended is nothing more than weasel words designed to sow discord and disunity in the Democratic base. Trump's probably going mad right now, if only on the basis that the news focus has been taken off him for a single day.

Trump is moderate on abortion,'' let the states decide, and most have voted liberal, which is great, let them decide''