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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    It was a great game of hurling in fairness! I feel that we need to improve in the backs if we are to win that all Ireland. I said we'd win if we kept Clare goalless, but unfortunately that didn't happen!

    It was a tough day at the office for some of our youngers lads, but they'll be all the better for the experience. I do think the future is still bright for this Cork team please god.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I thought the same in 2006 and 2013 and 2021 and see how long it took to get into All Ireland Finals. Cork have lost the confidence they have of winning tight games. In 2021 Limerick were red hot favourites and we didn't even challenge for it. Today we were favourites and we couldn't get over the line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    The lads from the u20 teams know how to win. Of course doing it at senior level is another thing entirely though!

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭Seadin


    We will get to finals again. But we must start winning them and we are still fragile. Maybe we should try and win the league first?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭almostover


    Ultimately the same old failing cost us, as they have done so for the last 10 years. We don't have any ball winners in the half forward line, a la Niall Mc or Timmy Mc, as we had on the last team to win an AI. They don't need to be great hurlers, just able to win a dirty ball. Once only did one of our forwards win a clean high ball today, and that was the last puck of the game. If the ball went to ground, 7 times out of 10 a Clare man came away with it. Our lads want to play nice, fast, skillful hurling. You have to earn the right to do that by winning sh*t ball when it's there to be won. Until we solve that the famine will continue.

    I don't buy the defensive frailty angle. Clare had so much possession because we couldn't go toe to toe with them on the dirty 60/40 ball. No defence can survive that onslaught. By rights Clare should have won by 3-4 pts in normal time only they were wasteful in front of goal.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Of course we should we haven't won the effing thing since 1998 after all!

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    What we need to sort out next year are 1 Defending and our defensive structure in general. 2 Improve on our ability to win the breaking ball. 3 Find someone to win the dirty ball up front as well. 4 Management can also improve tactically.

    I think we also need to kick up more of a fuss when we're getting ridden roughshod by the officials as well. We should also bring lads like Michael Mullins, Ben Cunningham and Will Buckley into the panel next year.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,051 ✭✭✭gifted


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    Corks last shot of the game .…ref left clare away with this all day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    From a meath man hardluck lads you lit up the championship this year with your fanfare and exciting games.

    I thought all thing's equal a draw was fair. Clare missed a lot of chances and the ref rode cork. But the reality is Clare missed those chances and the ref/umpires missed some crazy calls.

    I think next year Limerick will come roaring back and depending on Waterford Munster could be a nightmare just to get out of. Best of luck next year and thanks for the memories.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭roshje


    What is the problem with Cork hurlers that in 58 years they have only won 10 All Irelands while Kilkenny have won double that amount in that span?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    We're just too effing nice in Cork. That reff had a shocker. Our players should've been in his face letting him know that imo. We're still a bit soft and a bit too nice in Cork. Any other county from the leading contenders, would not have given those Clare forwards the space they got today.

    It's a long way back from here. I'm not sure we can get there without some big changes to the makeup of the panel. Numerous management teams now have now have failed to sort the defending problem out. It's been an issue going all the way back to 2013 at the very least.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,599 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Yes Cork did the hard work in beating Limerick …twice.

    Its a real sickener losing to a Clare team who lost to Limerick twice and should have been dead and buried by Kilkenny in the semi final.

    We needed a few players to grab the game by the neck today but it just didnt happen.

    Why did Cork persist with long puckouts when they were getting cleaned out in the half forward line, they should have mixed it up.

    A few matches ago they were obsessed with playing it out from the back.

    Ultimately the same old failing cost us, as they have done so for the
    last 10 years. We don't have any ball winners in the half forward line, a
    la Niall Mc or Timmy Mc, as we had on the last team to win an AI. They
    don't need to be great hurlers, just able to win a dirty ball. Once only
    did one of our forwards win a clean high ball today, and that was the
    last puck of the game.

    Thats true, but the half forward line won alot of ball against Limerick who have a better half forward line than Clare.

    Why was today different ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Cheers mate gaelic football really needs both ourselves and you back at the top table again.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭almostover


    Twas an anomaly really. That is a very strong Clare half back line. Possible stronger than Limerick when it come to winning primary possession. The Limerick half back line are better hurlers but Clare are dogged. We need to develop a few rough animals in the half forward line.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I watched the game back there again and we had chances to win it and dodgy ref decisions didn't help. Cork could have won it all the same. This one hurts more than the 2013 first game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Won't be happening for us! Cork footballers definitely have the resources though. Unfortunately the GAA commited football genocide in Leinster and I now get my fix attending all Ireland hurling semis which were class this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Jesus mate it'll be a while before i watch that game again if i ever do at all really!

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭riddles


    1999 and only with significant help from the referee Mr Murphy in the semi final



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭Seadin


    Its a hard watch but I have it done now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    It was 1998 when we last won the league you pointless and boring little troll.😉

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭riddles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    I think Brian Lohan is Clare manager for five years. Pat Ryan is in his second year as Cork manager. We do need to remember that. We should've given Connor Lehane a runout in extra time as well.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Few players just didn't turn up on the day. Dalton and Connelly were poor and also don't think Horgan did much bar his frees which in fairness he did very well....I



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The GAA needs to have a look at itself in terms of referees. There is massive pressure from the media, pundits and everyone really that referees should just "let the game flow".

    Refs get criticised as being "too picky" or of not showing "common sense" when they apply the rules. You then end up with situations like today where absolutely blatant fouls and consistent jersey pulling are let go in the interests of "letting the game flow". We either have rules or we don't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    There's also something lacking in the ability of the sideline to react tactically when things aren't going according to plan.

    When the gameplan is working Cork are great as we saw against Limerick who were under massive pressure from the long ball. But when things aren't going well I'm not sure Pat Ryan and sideline know how to react. In the first game against Clare, Cork were 7 points up in the second half, Clare changed things up and Cork didn't adjust and ended up losing.

    Today we were 7 points up early in the game. Clare stifled the long ball and we really couldn't find an answer to that, kept plugging away but never fully adjusted. The subs today also were slow to happen and largely ineffective when they did happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    Cork lost (and deserved to lose) mainly because they've no dog in them. We lost nearly every physical battle throughout the game. First half long puck out stat of 14% is a fair reflection of how dominant Clare were in the trenches. All 3 of the Clare goals were preventable by a strong shoulder or a cynical foul. And apart from Harnedy, I don't think any forward could be happy with his performance or won their personal battle.

    What disappoints me most is that I thought after the semi final that we were after turning the corner with the way we went toe to toe with Limerick physically. But it would appear we're back to square 1 after today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,599 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Agreed.

    The modern game is littered with fouls, every since Cody introduced the playing on the edge bullshit the game has become dirtier and dirtier.

    Its a tough job being a ref, the amount of fouling that goes on is ridiculous.

    Grabbing of players jerseys, grabbing the opponents arm, grabbing the hurley, pushing, shoving, wrapping arms around players.

    Its a mans game but all the above are fouls and should result in frees but they dont, it often needs 2 or even 3 of these incidents to happen in a row for a free to be awarded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭High bike


    Agree 100% we either have rules or we don't.I said the very same thing after the Limerick match in Cork when the ball was pucked out as the ball went over the bar and the ref bottled it and didn't call it back.Swings and roundabouts my friend swings and roundabouts.You can't apply the rules that suit u and ignore the ones that don't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭High bike


    What's bizarre about it,you wanted the rules applied today but were happy to ignore them when it suited you



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