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F1 2024 - Round 13 - Budapest - Hungaroring

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    That's Hamilton now ahead of Russell and Perez in the Championship.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 845 ✭✭✭ricimaki


    Will Lando break the P1 trophy this year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    Absolutely, but as I've been saying for years he's not as good as Lewis once the car starts to fall away. He needs to get his head on straight if he wants to stay on top. He has every potential to be the best driver of all time but he's got a terrible temper.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,435 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Will have to see if there is any fall out after this in McLaren. Strategy calls might be a bit more considered for McLaren in future. Lando seems to be more consistent and slightly faster, so hopefully will get payback in the not too distant future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭lolie


    He/she wont know until the Ch4 highlights this evening 😉

    Yeah Max messed up badly today, Crofty really done my head in with all the sim racing talk but the lack of sleep definitely didn't do Max any favours.

    McLaren really made a mess of that, Hamilton was several laps away from overcutting Norris so they could've easily left him out another few laps and pitted Piastri first. So instead of Piastri celebrating on the radio for his first win(sprint win aside) he's apologising to the team.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    He was mega pi**ed off today. He needs to get his head together quickly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,435 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    yes the Sim racing seem to come up way too often in the commentary. Max did come across as a bit immature on the radio, funny to see the team not agreeing with him about the Lewis incidents



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,494 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I was glad GP called him on that. It's one thing if it's a 50:50 call to side with your driver, but this was obvious error. And he had been pissy all race.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,494 ✭✭✭✭dulpit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    A bit of an arsehole today to be honest. I was starting to like him too.

    Yeah, if it was Lewis I don't think crofty would have brought that up but I think Maxes temper bothers a lot of people in F1. I thinks it's similar to why Schumacher has fallen out of favour as people's favourite driver over the past few years because a lot of people are only realising now that he was a bit of a dickhead at times and pissed off a lot of drivers who have since gone on to become successful F1 pundits. Senna appears to be everybody including the drivers new favourite. I think Max reminds a lot of the drivers and team principles of Schumacher.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    my race thoughts…. Not a great race but not the worst. I’ve read all the comments on Lando but IMO he’s earned a lot of respect from me today, yeah he could have given the place earlier (and benefitted) but he gave it and as a competitor that’s a big deal team wise! Today will stand to him but it also keeps good team harmony. If he wants to challenge this year or next he needs Piastari on side!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    Max fell off the track three times today. That more than he's managed in the last season or two



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,242 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    It wasn't just Today, he hasn't been happy with the car most of the weekend.

    He does need to calm it back down a little, I don't mind all the radio noise - but that dive down the inside of Hamilton was ridiculous of him to try.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    No chance I’m listening to them idiots on sky.

    Hopefully Max returns to form next weekend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,222 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Max could be the greatest of all time, but he's too comfortable in a car that is better than everyone else's.

    These complete tantrums when he's 'in the mix' are utterly ridiculous. He just comes across as a spoilt brat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,015 ✭✭✭✭PsychoPete


    They all do it when the car or strategy doesn't go their way and you'd be sick of hearing drivers bitch and moan but we tend to hear more radio messages when its Verstappen



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    At this point though, is the Red Bull that much better than the competitors? Verstappen was stuck behind Hamllton for a few laps even with DRS.

    I'm not a fan of his at all and I agree that his tantrums are "entertaining" at best. I'd argue though that he is one of the greatest anyway.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭Ultimate Gowlbag


    When it's the champion you hear it more,people used Hamiltons moaning as a stick to beat him with…same is happening now with Verstappen



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    Interestingly, Anthony Davidson on Sky just analysed the Hamilton-Verstappen collision and he (kind of) opined it was a racing incident.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,494 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Saw on twitter that Alonso let Stroll past to attack Tsunoda, with understanding they'd swap back if unsuccessful. He was unsuccessful, but didn't swap back. Which was for last point.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    Yeah, read that too. I can see in the results that Stroll finished less than a second behind Tsunoda, so maybe they thought they had a chance - although that would have been highly unlikely outside the DRS zone, so probably managed badly by the team?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,435 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,015 ✭✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Tsunoda is making a good case for Checos replacement, he's now scored double the points Ricciardo has this season



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,163 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    **** off Piastri.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,163 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    what did Norris do that deserves him to give up that place? What did he do wrong?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    He should have given up the spot after pit 2. He could have then challenged for the win.

    Instead he got all moody and wasn't thinking it through clearly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,321 ✭✭✭✭klose


    He only ended up P1 due to McLaren stupidly undercutting Piastri in P1 (undercut is famously strong in Hungary so literally everyone knew this would happen)

    Piastri was comfortably P1 all race until then, like the previous poster mentioned if Lando thought he could have beaten Oscar on pace he should have given the position to back to Oscar after his pit stop, instead he just started ignoring the team radio and got greedy.

    The root of all this is really the McLaren pitwall who have somehow managed to make a weekend where they secured a 1-2 in qualifying and converted it on race day feel like an uneasy weekend for the team when it should have been jubilation, the team radios were cringey at the end.


    Could Lando have done with the extra 7 points in his loooong odds of a chance of catching Max in the constructors? Sure, but he can blame his antics at Austria before that. Like the team radios were saying it’s a team game, Lando lost sight of that today for a bit today which is not a good look IMO.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,761 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    A great race and a great result. I really enjoyed that. Max threw a few tantrums but I can live with that. I’m a big fan of Max but I enjoy watching him have to really fight for the championship.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,757 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Does anyone know what exactly was agreed pre-race for the McLaren drivers? I'm getting a sense that they were free to race up until lap 40-odd?

    But to hold formation thereafter? When was the second stop?

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