Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

They have to much clout. Their solicitors are the best of the best. The judge might even reside there himself. They don't want it in greystones for the same reason coolock don't. The country is united on this.

If they did get it up and running they have to pay the staff and services to feed/maintain the property anyway so there no payback no matter what way you look at it. It’s good money after bad no matter what way you dress it up.

all this upheaval does not suit the good folk of D4 that kindly suggested moving the IPA centre from Mount st to somewhere more suitable ,where eh theres "wrap around services" available,nice try ,but soiree ,no chance now .

It's so sad. My community would be considered upper middle so we escape this disaster but anyone with a heart should feel sorry for the working class areas that have been abandoned and betrayed continuously. They have my full solidarity.

People affected by this dumping and it is dumping of IPA into these areas do not care what the national mood is and the reason being is the well to do class in this country won’t ever have to worry about this happening to them and as with this country it’s the old “well it’s not affecting me so I do t care” attitude and I’m not digging at you here Megaman but those people who are not affected have an awful lot to say when it becomes out of hand.

Sure SF could have stood up and being an opposition but the next government whoever it will have probably 2/3 of hold so I know things won’t change.

The current government are behaving without mandate on this issue and have been for a long time.

Opinion polls have changed drastically, there has been escalation from peaceful protesting to arson all over the country.

The government simply refuse to change.

If there were to be a crackdown with mass arrests and curtailing protest and so on in order to ram their ideas in place, let me tell you in no uncertain manner, it would cause uproarious acceleration of the pushback.

The optics alone would be unthinkable. They know it. And that's why when you have a truly dreadful, deeply unpopular idea, you'll find yourself in catch 22's all the way until you give up.

Peaceful protests turned ugly by some is bad....but peaceful protests turned ugly by the Public Order Unit is good?

The footage is there for all to see. Some Gardai again using heavy handed tactics against peaceful protesters so is it any wonder crowds retaliate.

I don't condone scum, and an element of scum always end up at these protests. But pepper spraying protesters who've done feck all except be part of the protest isn't a good look.

The tracksuit brigade is one thing, but unfortunately there are a few thugs wearing AGS uniforms.

100%, I think the current escalating crisis is a function of the following Government treatment,

1 Apathy,

2Woke/NGO/ leftish media pressure,

3 Denial of reality and refusal to change direction when facts change.

4.Crisis management, cliff side poor decision making.

5.Double down and choose wrong fork in road.

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The political establishment are barely distinguishable from each other, might as well be a dictatorship.

Sinn fein, fianna fail, fine gael, labour, the lot, all pro more migrants. Now that's what you call choice on arguably the biggest issue in the nation.

How was this allowed mutate to this point?

The main players all have similar beliefs though. They all wanted to be seen to be woke, they all want to keep the NGO gravy train onside Incase they lose their seats and need a cushy number thereafter.

Siding with the masses won't get them that.

Sinn Fein have probably killed their one big chance in the immediate future of being a dominant party in government

SF in their website had their policy roughly as follows.

1. No direct provision.

2. About 10k refugees per year (reasonable pre refugee/housing crisis)

So why don't they stick to that instead of pretending like huge annual numbers on top of the massive wave from Ukraine is ok.

Literally just stick to their policy and shout out loud under no circumstances would we accept more. And maybe even none for a few years.

A reasonable policy which would have gained huge support. Instead they cted like cheer leaders for the government refugee policy.

Sinn fein want a united ireland. Another conspiracy theory here. But let in as much through the north so as to consider border control only through a united ireland. Oh im nuts aint I. Or are politicans crazy fookers. Or are they corruptable. Hard to know.

Has ireland a history of public violence against irish state. Ok the civil war but? Its not on same scale yes but. This is different. Its like the government are hand tied either way and are held at gunpoint. Scary