Supporting craft breweries

You don't need to know what a restaurant is serving. You just need to know what kind of restaurant it is. Many operate with "sample menus" on the website.

You know it's a craft beer pub and if it's a good one it will have a broad selection of styles. In the example I was giving above the customer might not know every beer but knew I always had 8 taps which were always 2xPale, 2x IPA, lager, dark/stout, sour/fruit/saison and a tap.for mad stuff like imperials or barrel aged.

I hate pale and IPA and even I've never walked into a craft beer place and had to leave from lack of options.

As for calculation ya changing a beer involves washing and flushing the line, changing the badge, changing the button on the till and the menu in house so thinking about the guy on untapped who wasn't coming in but may because of an update or who was but is so mad for a certain beer nothing else will do is way down the list when you are thinking of all the people actually in the pub.

It's no harm if you get it done but it would never factor into my rating of a place. And some spots I actually look at and think maybe the manager needs to put the phone down and give the place a scrub or be paying more attention to his staff.

I'm an incredibly picky eater; I cannot guarantee that there'll be something I can eat in a restaurant without seeing the menu and I have had to bail from places cause of it.

And I'm not vegan or coeliac which would make that worse; and is somewhat applicable to beer also - although these days vegan beer isn't hard to find at all.

If I was making a special trip out somewhere I'd like to know if there was a chance it'd all be stuff I'd hate. (says me who has made hundreds of special trips to pubs with the blandest tap lineups in the world, but for other reasons)

Maybe I'm spoiled because I'm a regular in Underdog. Case in point, last night, two beers ran out when we were there, two new beers were up on taplist before we left - but then Anto is on the ball.

Fair. I think Underdog's menu screens are actually powered off taplist, so they've every reason to do it. Can't order it if I can't see it's for sale.

I already mapped out the amount of things you had to do. It's a lot more than that.

There are often problems with the "iPad" bit when you are dealing with putting in the beer too especially if you are the first or one of the first to sell it. And two minutes on an iPad for a very small portion of your customers isn't worth much when you are 4 deep at the bar on a 15k night.

London. And we weren't even the busiest or most famous of the craft pubs.

Pop down to somewhere like The Old Fountain on Old Street and you will see why every craft beer manager doesn't have time to update his social media.

Why "should it be done" ?

It's Untapped/Taplist. It's a niche piece of social media that those very busy craft pubs clearly don't need.

The idea there is "no excuse" or pubs are "sliding" because they don't use your preferred app is ridiculous.

Most craft customers just trust a good pub to have something good on. People who are checking first and not going to a good pub based off of Untapped are a pretty small part of the market. The fact there isn't even one definitive app makes it even less appealing.

It's not an excuse.

Someone said there is "no reason these days" for a craft beer pub to not have Untapped or Taplist. I said there are plenty of reasons a pub would choose not to and one of those is you have more important things to do than keep it perfectly up to date on shift so you choose not to use it.

Wicklow Wolf and Whiplash both have free shipping in the run up to the long weekend from their respective webshops.

Whiplash use UPS, and I have found that UPS can be overnight on one occasion and then two days to deliver in others - makes it hard to plan when to order to line up WFH etc. Oh well, I'll likely leave it off this time and just wait for the new releases to land in Bradleys.

Rye River have a new brand in Tesco, IBU, comprising a Czech pils, a Belgian white and a session IPA. I’ll be curious to see if they were just re-labelling of the current (and good value) Solas range.

Unfortunately they don’t seem to be live on my app for tomorrow’s click + collect shopping…

From what they said on the brewery tour; they do own some of the brands used on the in-store brands. But I can't remember which.

Two Sides beers have appeared on Craft Central. I would have they decided to distribute a bit more?