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General Star Trek thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    RTE2

    NETWORK
    NETWORK
    NETWORK
    NETWORK
    NETWORK2

    Now now … RTE 2 came first … Network 2 only showed up 10 years later, only to be changed back in the noughties.

    <Pedantic Pat and That is That!>



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 538 ✭✭✭eadrom


    Oh, interesting! Cool. Honestly didn't know that :)

    That Network 2 ident was fantastic though (in it's way). I guess I was too young to remember what came before it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,481 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Do Zig & Zag count as scifi broadcasting?

    They are aliens…

    :)

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,266 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Sure, and I would imagine Planet Zog to be somewhere in the Alpha Quadrant :P



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Ireland in the 70's was something of a dull place … fancy dandy branding like "Network 2" would likely not have worked too well. Getting a second channel was a major new concept to most of the population. It gave the children a new job in the household … they became remote controls!!! 😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,436 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The Roddenberry Archive has gotten some new stuff since I was on last. You cannot walk the Promenade now and they have a walkthrough video with Quark.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,246 ✭✭✭corkie


    https://trekmovie.com/2024/07/17/star-trek-origin-movie-tidbit-reportedly-set-mostly-on-earth/

    [A] prequel focusing on humanity’s early contact with aliens and the formation of the Federation. Andor director Toby Haynes is attached to direct a script by Seth Grahame-Smith that is rumored to take place largely on Earth. The studio sees the project as an entry point for new fans who do not need to know about decades of canon (or keep up with the myriad shows on Paramount+). No cast or release date is set, but it’s in pole position to be the next Trek to hit the big screen.

    Not very treky!? If mainly set on Earth!

    +

    In May Variety reported, “the film is intended as an origin story for the main timeline of the ‘Star Trek’ franchise (rather than the alternate Kelvin timeline, started with 2009’s “Star Trek”).” If the film is set in Trek’s Prime universe, it’s unclear how it would fit with established lore, especially as seen in First Contact and Star Trek: Enterprise.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,282 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Biggest issue for fitting in with established lore is there's over a century between first contact with Vulcans and the founding of the Federation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,436 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The antagonists will be Archers father, Spock's Grandmother, A Soong somehow, Guinan and Trelane. Carol Kane and Jolene Blalock (T'Pol's ancestor) will have camoes and Riker will be there at some point. Might even get that wooden SNW version of Kirk in a time travel episode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,263 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    You forgot Porthos grandmother (played by Jeffery Combs)

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,436 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Must be said, I feel like when it comes to Trek movies, the strike rate has been so low I'm kinda fairly ambivalent about these new films 'cos while I'd hold no hope of them being good, it's not like they're gonna stain an especially large legacy here.

    I know it's gonna seem like a hot take but the Trek films have struggle with quality IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Evade


    That's a tepid take, at best, when maybe 6/13 are actually good



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 538 ✭✭✭eadrom


    I find it difficult to include the 3 Kelvin films with the others. Of the original 10 though, I’d say 8 of them are perfectly good to good-fun, I’d only leave out The Final Frontier and Nemesis. Although to be fair there’s probably some distance between Generations, Insurrection, and the next one up on the quality list, too. But they’re still good fun.

    The other 3 are a different sort of thing. Like I’m not into Marvel at all but will concede that a few of those films are entertaining enough, and the Kelvin films are the same. ST09 and Beyond are decent entertainment if you’re in the mood for that.

    Not a bad hit rate at all, imo.

    Post edited by eadrom on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,436 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I would say 8/10 too but swap Final Frontier with Insurrection. Nemesis is the only totally unwatchable heap of shte one.

    The only Kelvin movie I like is Beyond and that's probably because it's the only one doesn't have that stupid white as heaven bridge featuring prominently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Inviere


    ^^ Agree with both of the above. I really only feel there's 10 Trek movies, and the vast majority of them are either good to great (from the perspective of a Trek fan.)

    The Kelvin stuff is all one watch and done for me. It's Trek in name only.



  • Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think that Pegg was trying his damnedest to give up a proper Trek film, with in the horrid confines of JJ led Trek



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Well I know there'd be fondness for the sloppier ones that I wouldn't wanna completely ignore the fun of Voyage Home, or action of First Contact (despite being a terrible actual TNG story) and so on.

    So if these new movies are rubbish? Join the club; they can only exceed expectations in many respects.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Beyond was still dumb as rocks but you saw the influence of someone who clearly appreciated and "got" Trek much more than Abrams or Kurtzman ever did. I liked how they finally let Spock and McCoy bicker & show that classic chemistry. You'd wonder how Pegg's scripts might have looked if thee wasn't also that studio mandate for those Big Loud Set-Pieces. Surprised Pegg hasn't been tapped for any projects since given the broadly stronger online enthusiasm for Beyond



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,436 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I don't think it had anything got to do with Peggy "getting it". It's more that the plot was its own thing rather than some silly cadet origin story or a "definitely not Khan" bad guy.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    That helped for sure, but I think the Sabotage scene was emblematic of Pegg's dumb-but-smart execution of (in this case) the classic Solve With Science trope. It made so much more sense than the last time we heard the track & what amounted to a braindead Textual scream of "this ain't your Dad's Star Trek!!"

    It just vibed way more like Pegg might have watched even liked Trek and wanted to mould its tropes and tics more than Abrams' pretty blatant attempt to do a Star Wars.

    Either way, it was the best of the three Kelvin films, and better than most of the TNG ones - and more in keeping with its source at that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,436 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I'm also a sucker for a ghost ship and found footage mysteries so that aspect of the story was fun.

    That ship and their ENT style uniforms did try much harder to fit the proper style of the shows too which was a nice touch.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    So for those of us incurably Google shy / lazy, do we know if there's gonna anything Trek related worth noting in Comic Con this weekend?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    New Comic-Con trailer - looks great!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,436 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    That looked absolutely terrible. Hopefully that is the seemingly mandatory SNW comedy episode and there isn't any further surprises.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,282 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Looked pretty bad even by the comedy episode standards. Only plus point was Pike's crazy hair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,436 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Nothing can be worse than the singing episode. Even Discovery didn't do anything that absolutely crap.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Pike's hair was a pretty big tip-off this was gonna be a Comedy Episode; which, that's fine. They were never the predominant style and I enjoyed a few them. The beauty of this show has been how it has skipped across genres pretty regularly. I still haven't watched the Musical Episode 'cos there were some genres I wasn't gonna touch regardless.

    The quartet's various Vulcan styling doesn't work for me and as is often the case, it's when you see it done badly that you appreciate the actors who have played Vulcan rather well. Carol Kane remains a gem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,795 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Really. I think it looks hilarious. Can't wait to see it.

    I disagree. I love that episode. Thought it was brilliant.

    No Disg whatever it was called done much worse.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    There was a trailer for Section 31 (by accident) then Paramount immediately pulled it



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