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Toyota bz4X

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Mach Two


    When is the new solid state battery supposed to be ready for the BZ4X?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    It's just around the corner just like it's been for the last decade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Mach Two


    Other companies are on the verge of bringing out a solid state battery. Surely Toyota can't be far off the mark as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    What companies and what's "on the verge"? From my reading I'd be surprised if we had a mainstream SSB before 2030.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Mach Two


    I thought I saw somewhere that some mainstream car manufacturers were close to going in to production. Waffle I suppose. 2030 is a bit aways. But a Toyota sales rep did say to me that they could be around in 2 years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,028 ✭✭✭✭josip




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,146 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Mach Two


    Or the C4X?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    More FUD from Toyota. Slippery slop they're on here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Mach Two


    Can a tow bar be fitted to the bz4x?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,241 ✭✭✭✭elperello




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Mach Two


    Why are tow bars so expensive? The cooler/heater unit seems a good buy. Any of ye got it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,241 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Because they will invalidate the warranty if you fit a non OEM one.

    You can fit one from Mick's Garage or similar for a lot less.

    I don't know about the cooler/heater unit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Mach Two


    Which is more advisable to buy a new or a second hand electric car. I am referring to battery condition. Can the battery be checked for damage?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭vimalandrew


    First of all you need to understand business. Companies come with new options when they are in trouble. America came with Tesla when their car companies were in trouble. Ford's selling is now half in Ireland. Other american companies have got a bad reputation such as Jeep etc.. So they came with Tesla and got number one. What about Toyota. There is tie up with OPEC countries and every Arab family has a Land Cruiser in their front of the house. A lot of politics going on between OPEC and America. What about Toyota sales. Last year, they had record profit and record sales. If I open my front door, what I can see all the new registrations are Toyota hybrids. Then in premium segment. People are moving away from BMWs and Benz. In America, rich people are nowadays buying Lexus. Here in Ireland also, I can see lots of new Lexus on the road. Because media says, a Lexus is made to run forever. Due to these reasons, I dont see arrival of solid state battery in the next 5 years. I found that China's NIO is building one. But last month Elon Musk visited Beijing and begged in front of Chinese Premier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,028 ✭✭✭✭josip


    That's a bit of a change. Back in December you were optimistic of solid state batteries sometime in 2024,

    and now you don't think it will happen in the next 5 years?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    How many sets of tyres before the unicorn battery arrives?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭yermanthere


    Safety recall for camera completed this week. Another day spent dropping and collecting to dealer with no courtesy car. This was second software update/ recall in 14 months, plus annual service. Service manager even said " And there's no charge for today's work", like I was being done a favour 😂.

    I think it's a great car to drive, but I've never had 3 visits to a garage in year 1 with a brand new car. And an expensive one. If software updates are gonna be the future, Toyota needs to be able to do it over-the-air.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭petronelduca


    Looking at the "glass half full", it wouldn't be a bad thing they recalled the car.

    It is great that they are finding possible issues a d fix them before they become critical. Hiding things under the carpet would probably be worse.

    Every time I go to my local Toyota garage there's coffee, free Internet, a desk is always available to bring my work laptop with me, absolutely no bother. However we are talking about Tuam, County Galway. I guess it woukd be a bit more difficult to find all these closer to Dublin, due to the higher volume of customers.

    All in all, not a deal breacker IMHO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Mach Two


    With all the talk on EV battery life and tyre wear does anything ever go wrong under the bonnet in theses EV 's.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    The wheels used to fall off these, Toyota saw its fixed now, probably.

    (I wish I was joking about the wheels)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,028 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Yes, motors are known to fail. Infrequent but expensive if it happens outside warranty. Haven't heard of it happening to a BZ4X yet and it would be covered by the excellent warranty even if it did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    Once you service it with them every year, they extend the warranty which I'd handy alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Mach Two


    I read about the problem with the wheels. More of a problem with the bolts I expect. What is the life expectancy of the motor? How many motors are in EV cars anyhow? What is the approximate cost of replacing a motor? Depending on the vehicle I expect.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,426 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Sound alike you need to research this a bit more.

    Your questions sound alike a survey 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,028 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Life expectancy of a motor would be at least 8 years/160,000 since that's what manufacturers are prepared to offer warranty on. Most EVs have 1 motor driving either the front or rear axle. Higher performance EVs have a motor on each axle. You won't have much change out of €10,000 if you need to get a motor replaced out of warranty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,146 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The chances of needing a motor replaced before needing a battery replaced would be very slim in my opinion.

    When EV's start getting scrapped down the road, it won't be because of batteries or motors failing..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,348 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Nice to see this thread is as nonsensical as ever, I love getting notifications for this thread😊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,146 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    In fairness though, the average Toyota buyer isn't going to have a great deal of knowledge of all things EV, despite thinking they've been driving an 'EV' for the last 10 years in their self charging hybrid…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Mach Two


    Research what? Simple questions to the longevity of a EV car. What wears and doesn't wear.



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