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BRITISH GENERAL ELECTION - 4TH JULY

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭crusd


    UK election result 60% left / centre-progressive, 40% Right wing-conservative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    The Liz Truss result was a bonus. Many shredded lettuce references to be made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Once the attention moves on from the Tory humiliation and personal loses, the big result is the shockingly low popular vote for Labour. 33.9% of the popular vote - on a turnout that is down nearly 8%.

    It means that if the Tories select a popular leader, they have a real chance of returning to office in the next election.

    Labour will have to do things in this term if they want to get re elected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Had a quick look at the daily heil to see what their reaction was. You had to scroll a while before saw a picture of Starmer.
    Their election live blog article has Farage (a leader of a party of 4 seats) front and centre on the pic with Starmer and Sunak either side.

    Directly below that ‘how to protect your investments from Labour. THE STEPS YOU NEED TO TAKE NOW!’

    What a delusional rag.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,528 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    There will now be a battle within the Conservative party as to who retain the Conservative name. The ultra right wing section epitomised ny Priti Patel and Jacob Rees Mogg or the centrist lead by Jeremy Hunt. Its probably worth 50 seats longterm to which ever side wins. I expect that whichever side wins they will root out the influence of the other side

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭Dont Be at It




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Yeah, can't understand why RTE are getting their knickers wet over the 'Fall of the House of Paisley'!

    The Shinners will crow from their heap about border polls and so on. But if you look at the vote split, it's roughly 1/3rd Nationalist, 1/3rd Unionist and 1/3rd Others. So not much change really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Was a bit surprised by that. He has GB news show, will be grand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Very good election for Sinn Fein, all their marginal seats were held comfortably and they've given themselves the shot of making a gain next time out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    Keir Starmer got 36,000 votes in his own constituency when Jeremy Corbyn was leader in 2019. This has now dropped to 18000 votes with Keir Starmer as leader in 2024.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,260 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    just looking at the results for each of the popular parties; all percentages are absolute, not relative;

    labour more than doubled their seats based on a 1.7% swing to them.

    tories lost more than two thirds based on a 20% swing away.

    lib dems have ten times as many seats based on a 0.7% swing to them. probably the most representative party, 11% of the seats based on 12% of the vote.

    reform - did better in popular vote than LD, but have 0.6% of the seats based on 14% of the vote(!)

    greens; 0.6% of the seats based on 7% of the vote.

    SNP, a 75% collapse in seat count based on a 1.2% drop in votes (a relative drop of one third in the votes)

    what an absurd system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,823 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    If Reform and Farage stick around, they could keep the Tories out of power for 10 to 15 years. The fracturing of the right wing vote is a calamity for the English right (especially with FPTP).





  • Some pundits calling Labour's victory the "loveless landslide". Overall turnout slipped below 60% (59.9) as well. That 40% of the electorate didn't bother voting is something to be noted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    From Tim Shipman on X:

    "There’s a weird delirium seizing Tories this morning. Worst election result ever but they can sniff an opening with Starmer’s low vote share. “This is the shittest landslide ever” one says “We can get back in five years”. If this view is widespread it may change who they pick for leader"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Reckon he will be back at some stage or another. Even if just for another brief stint.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,375 ✭✭✭SteM


    Is there a popular potential leader available from the reelected Tory MPs? One that will engage the British public.

    Jeremy Hunt maybe, although I think he was defeated buly Johnson in a leadership campaign before wasn't he?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,074 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Just saw the disgraceful scenes at the Birmingham Yardley count center, disgusting misogynist biggotted bullies refusing to allow Jess Philips even give her victory speech



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,823 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Yes, it was far more that the Tories 'lost' the election rather than Labour 'winning' it.

    But there is a major chance for Labour and Starmer to grow into the role and win a second term. The Tories seem far more divided and unstable (even now with the smaller rump version).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,255 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    He'll run in the first by-election in an area with a strong Asian heritage population; whenever and wherever that is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭archfi


    Yes, Reform totally cannabalised the Conservatives vote.

    Richard Curtice on BBC said about two thirds of Conservative party seat losses attrributed to Reform being in the race - that's approx 160 seats Reform prevented the Conservatives from retaining/possibly retaining.

    I would have guessed a bit less than that number because I think whoever voted Reform, a lot would not have gotten over their disgust at the Conservative party's abysmal record.

    This was most definitely not a popular voter sentiment shift to Labour, but there you go the seats are what count.

    Labour should really take their 'poor' vote share on board though.

    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    That's likely a very accurate summation. He might well get in again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭Dont Be at It


    It'll all depend on what the tories and Reform doing going forward. If they stay separate it'll splinter the right vote and labour will go through by default (kind of like yesterday).

    If they get into bed together it could be a short stint in government for Labour. The UK electorate just loves a right leaning vote, I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Not so much loveless as pointless. The predictions of a Labour landslide must have induced huge voter apathy. I mean if you pretty well know that the result was about 99.99% assured not much point in voting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Good result for Labour.

    Not near the 40% Jezza got in 2017 but decent none the less.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I probably missed it but what happened Boris in all this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The lack of ideological difference between the parties means people stay at home.

    It's Going to be the same here for our election I would think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,370 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Truss did not even make a speech when she lost her seat, she just walked off stage. Making the optics even worse.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    This is far from a disaster for the Tories. The predictions had them below 100 seats.

    The Tories will oppose any move to change the electoral system because they know they can get back in with a 12% increase in their vote.

    So the issue of PR isn't going to come up at all. Both major parties are against it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,267 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    It's clear Lb voters in safe seats didn't all come out to vote. Lb polled better where there was a fight to be won. We can discuss % all day but it's the number of seats that will resonate. Only by working hard from day one will LB hold a majority in the next election. That's a good thing.



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