Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Yeah - I don't think Warren is really a serious option today, I was commenting more on how she was passed over 4 and 8 years ago due to the influence of party donors. Too much of a threat to how big business operates.

It looks like the party has confirmed they won't be looking to replace Biden. They may just have handed the election to Trump.

That's what I meant. Media is a the plural of medium.

Harris would be hit over her record as AG, and the allegations over her sleeping her way up the ladder. They'd probably also go over her selective use of her ethnic background. From memory, she didn't have much of a record as Senator.

He's complicit in the murders of thousands of children. He supplied the murderers with the weapons. But you already know that.

Republicans were for it, it included things they had been calling for... until Trump told his stooges to oppose it. Hypocrites all.

It has non partisan support from people on the front line:

The union that represents front-line Border Patrol agents supports the Senate immigration reform bill, saying the new authorities it gives agents to turn migrants away are a key step in the right direction.

The bill in microcosm proves that Trump and Republicans dont care about the border except to play politics with. With occasional racist rants.

Biden and the Democrats are the ones trying to govern responsibly.

Not how it works, no matter how many times you say it. Keep your head in the sand, it suits you.

ah you’re back. You went AWOL for a few days after the debate there 😂

Democrats could actually win this election if they chose someone left field, young, and a complete break from the washington elite.

If ever the US needed a fresh start its now.

@Overheal

They can also win it by continuing with Joe Biden.

While I would agree that even a senile Biden is better than Trump and what MAGA would like to do, I'm not sure enough Americans agree.

There are less than ten states which actually matter in the election and it appears that Biden trails in all of them, and this is before the next round of polls after the debate will be done.

This isn't to be mention a massively underreported fact that the RNC co chair talked about the party hiring legions of partisan poll workers for the big day.

This isn't to say that polls are everything, but they're certainly not nothing, and the cliché being thrown around that polls are meaningless just comes across as reckless thinking.

If the tide is to turn against Trump, what's the timeline, if that timeline isn't to stay the course with a belief that the polls will be wrong?

The polls have been wrong for years now. MAGA broke polling. Social media broke polling. Multiple election cycles MAGAs who shouted "Red Wave November" citing "polls" have been left eating lemons. The result is still yet to be determined. I can say with reasonable certainty what won't work, and that's parachuting in someone new, raises far too much hay (eg. why not Kamala Harris? a X+Kamala ticket? etc it will shatter the democratic coalition no matter what you do - which is precisely what MAGA etc. want to see, they want another 2016 like split between the hillary and bernie camps) there's a reason why MAGAs have been wishcasting for that outcome for - 4, 5 years now?

Lol I don't use delivery apps, I go get stuff myself because I'm not a lazy bastard and they are a rip off. It was capriottis, we don't have Publix here, but I wouldn't call that gourmet. A cheese steak and a "bobbie" if you must know. No extras but I did give a tip.

Sure, the polls could be wrong and have been , but that cuts both ways and also includes the possibility that the numbers are actually worse for Biden, not better. This is how it went in the 2020 election where Biden had some big leads that didn't actually materialise while results in other states were within a couple of points of the polls.

Whatever shortcomings that polling might have, you can be sure that political operatives aren't using divination to determine where to concentrate campaigning. They're using empirical methods to gauge the intentions of likely voters, ie polling.

Overall, the message of, "we have no other ideas than to sit tight and hope the polls are wrong" would be a pretty pathetic note to watch American democracy potentially die on.

In a sense, you're right about the debate not changing much because Biden trailed in the polls going into it and he will almost certainly trail in the polls on the other side of it.

What are he and his team going to do in order to right that situation?

If Biden drops out, his replacement will talk about solving the cost-of-living crisis, and the people here denying it exists will support that and argue that a Democrat can solve it better than Trump.