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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    I'd have to challenge you on that Podge. The economy is undoubtedly doing better, for wall st. For regular people, it's a difficult time. Everything is significantly more expensive, and like seemingly everywhere else, housing costs are through the roof. Having high employment numbers is less impressive when those jobs don't cover the basic cost of living. The government has done **** all to combat the gross profiteering that's been occurring for the last few years, not have they addressed the housing crisis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    More and more people are having to work two jobs just to cover the basics. It's tough times for a lot of Americans



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Real wages, adjusted for inflation, are up on 2020 in the US.

    I don't doubt that some people are suffering however the bottom quartile of wage earners have seen wage growth higher than anyone else. The exact opposite of what you're claiming has happened. Instead, middle income Americans are finding that their vast discretionary spending doesn't go quite as far cause service workers are being paid more. They are, however, continuing that discretionary spending at record levels.

    Now, I'm also aware of the disconnect between this being true and people believing it. I genuinely have no idea how to approach that issue because it is not something that traditionally has happened. But if the question is "are people wrong when they say the economy is bad", the answer is still "absolutely, yes".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭monseiur


    It's disappointing that you regard the truth as weird. Inconvenient perhaps but not weird.

    We are in the 21st century and are supposed to be enlightened, modern and broadminded etc. US claims to be the leader/protector of the free world. A world where might is not always supposed to be right, where minorities are encouraged to seek equal rights, freedom and self-determination.

    Yet Biden is providing unlimited financial, military & logistics aid to a brutal regime to ensure the genocide of a minority Palestine people who are oppressed / living in the world's biggest open air prison since they were driven off their land and lost everything over 75 years ago .

    Biden and his cronies (especially the jew Antony Blinken) nor his predecessors did nothing over the years to solve the festering crisis. The all powerful jewish lobby in the US calls the shots and Biden hasn't the guts to stand up to them.

    US have the power to help, with others, to create a two state set up where all could live in harmony with an element of freedom. The current slaughter of the totally innocent presided over by Biden & co. is just prolonging the suffering & pain and driving more and more desperate young men without hope, without a future, many now without family, into the hands of groups like Hamas. As they see it they have nothing left to lose.

    Some future US president will eventually have to stand up to the jews, Biden has shown he lacks the back bone, the fortitude, statesmanship, vision or compassion to do it ……………..and as for Trump whose daughter is married to a jew God help us all.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    A smaller percentage of people work 2 jobs than in 2019.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,196 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    News flash, Joe Biden isn’t dropping bombs on Palestinians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,196 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    You topped your previous post with that one. Nice work.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,866 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I’m no fan of Biden’s support of Israel.

    But he’s actually limiting arms exports to Israel more than any president in living memory. Is it enough? Definitely not. But in a binary choice between Biden and Trump he’s clearly the better candidate for Palestine.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,866 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,196 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    You might also be letting the veil slip a bit with the ol Jew bashing there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Barely, and those were 2023 numbers. Id imagine it's even higher now. Also, more Americans than ever before are working two full time jobs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,339 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    There's more Americans than ever, as has already been explained to you on the thread, so that is utterly disingenuous. Abuse of statistics to try to fool people who don't understand statistics.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    So what if it's barely? The numbers are functionally the same as in 2019, they have been rising solely over the last few years because people have been returning to the workforce in record numbers post-Covid. All statistical factors went to hell in 2020. The actual percentage of people working multiple jobs is fairly static over the last 2 decades.

    Also more Americans than ever are not working two full time jobs. There have been higher numbers than the May 2024 figure earlier in Biden's tenure, during Trump's tenure and during GWB's tenure. The numbers are tiny relatively speaking anyway, though given it is absolute numbers reflected there, the percentage is lower now than in the past as the labourforce is at record highs.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU02026631

    I don't know the answer to people having the wrong opinion on the economy, but they are wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,051 ✭✭✭political analyst


    There's much greater scrutiny of the White House by the media today than there was in the 1920s. Therefore, it would become obvious if Jill Biden is allowed to do what Woodrow Wilson's wife did. The federal judiciary would regard letting the First Lady have any role in government as unconstitutional.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    So according to people in Ireland Americans who live there are imagining things when they say their country has a border crisis and a cost of living crisis. No everything is wonderful Biden has horrible ratings for economic performance and immigration policy for no reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,196 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Are you sure it’s not because there are far more media mediums today than there was 100 years ago, perhaps?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,781 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    It's the same here. People go on about a migrant crisis, it's in the papers, it was being pushed as a major issue in recent elections. But is it really a major issue? Or is it just perceived to be because people are stoking up fears?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,255 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Why the **** is Biden getting grief for the border issue. Here's trump saying he tanked the negotiated bill and why.

    He doesn't give two **** about the border.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Misery gets the voters out. Would they vote if they only heard good news? Ireland's got so little in reality to complain about, other than the pernicious regressive influence of the RCC, so they gin up 'crises.' Crises is what's going on in Gaza, Ukraine, Sudan, … Tents on the canal in Dublin isn't a crisis until someone tells you it is, and you accept it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Democrats didn't care when illegal immigrants were largely staying in the southern states. Even in this thread, "agriculture would die without illegal immigrants."

    New York's Democrat mayor proudly welcomed illegal immigrants to New York and like a year later, this city got its fair share and now he's declaring "Migrant Crisis ‘Will Destroy New York City".

    The Democrats have just been caught out lying about Biden's health. It's not going to work if they just try to lie to Americans and claim that the economy is doing great and everyone is fine, like people are arguing in this thread. Cost of living is an issue. Saying it isn't as an attack against Trump is absurd.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Why wouldnt it be a major issue? the gov havnt capped it to an acceptable level or look like they are in control of it, it has no affect on D4 I have Irishtown Garda station on speed dial, I see a tent and its moved on in an hour , if you are unlucky to live NTMK surely you see it in more personal terms?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    "isn't a crisis until someone tells you it is"

    Surely it's the opposite if you are telling people it isn't a crisis because things are worse in Sudan. It "is a crisis until you tell someone it isn't."

    Bizarre you admit things are bad in Gaza when you personally support the indiscriminate bombing of tens of thousands of women and children. Just like Biden. He stopped one shipment "worth tens of millions" in the middle of arms shipments worth billions, and all his supporters pretend he's not a part of what's happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,255 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    MAGA - Biden can't do anything without a teleprompter

    MAGA when trump can't do anything WITH a teleprompter - crickets

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 BLFOTR


    The migrant crisis isn't a major issue if you are well off, live in a leafy Dublin suburb, send your kids to private school, have private health care etc… In fact these people will encourage mass inward migration as it drives down wages and conditions for lower paid workers which a lot of these peoples businesses will employ.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    So, not a crisis then. At best a 'major issue' like so many - health care, housing, global warming, …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 BLFOTR


    If you think global warming isn't a crisis then im not sure there is any point engaging with you further.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,339 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    So where's all your criticisms of Republican lawmakers and Trump then for blocking the bipartisan bill to tighten border control?

    Or is this just a general immigration axe you are wielding here without any understanding of how it is being played out in US politics?

    Or is this just a disingenuous attempt at attacking Biden while giving Republicans a free pass?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


     It's not going to work if they just try to lie to Americans and claim that the economy is doing great and everyone is fine, like people are arguing in this thread. Cost of living is an issue.

    It's not lying. I am not a politician so I don't know how to frame this better, but inflation adjusted wages are literally higher than they were pre-pandemic. The cost of things is also more expensive, but people are earning more - that they think the economy is terrible is, for the vast majority of people, an issue of perception and not reality. It can be seen in almost every single economic metric you care to track.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 BLFOTR


    The thread title is about Joe Biden, there is a thread for discussing Trump/republicans i believe?



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