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Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    The only path to victory I can see is if half the dublin squad opt to go the the Taylor Swift concert instead. Speaking of which, dublin will be chaos regardless of which day it is on.

    I think Galway should leave Comer off. See how the basketball tactics go then bring him on late in the first half or early in the second half and lump a few long balls into him. Being such underdogs is more or less the only thing we have going for us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 laymansterms


    6:15pm on Saturday. Not great for families travelling up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Way I look at it (and maybe this is the case at latter stages of any Championships) but this game for me comes down to management.

    That may not instill people with confidence but matchups and players positions are going to be huge, along with as you said are we starting strong or finishing strong.

    Hope I have is 2022 final. Management got so much right on that day. Glynn to follow P. Clifford all over the park. Silke on O'Shea, isolating Shane Walsh one on one inside. Probably the biggest thing that didn't work was the one thing that no one was expecting was D. Clifford to do so well on Sean Kelly. The bench issue seems to be rectified although it worried me how little it was utilised against Monaghan (despite the high praise from Joyce for the bench)

    I'd love to put my PJ hat on but I wonder will it be a case of go again and see how we go. Even with that a lot of matchups will be straight forward but I worry the big calls may not be made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Yeah I was hoping for 4pm Sunday.

    Won't rule it out yet but makes a long day of it.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭cosatron


    I wonder is this a game to recall John Daly for his kick passing ability, with Mulkerrins, we have a better defender but hasn't the vision or ability for the kick pass. Especially if comer is starting



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,027 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    I can see Heaney starting the next day, we need a steady ship first 15 minutes... I see Gleeson, Conroy and Maher got on team of the week, no more than they deserve



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    How PJ times the substitutions will be critical

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    I think the starting team will be the same as against Monaghan except with Tierney in full forward, Heaney on the wing. Daly, Sweeney and Comer will surely be brought in, how soon depends on how well/badly things are going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Wouldn't start Daly now. Mulkerrins has acquitted himself very well the past 2 matches and, critically, has a lot more pace than Daly. Would also have Heaney in for Darcy, (more football nous) and possibly have a midfield of Tierney and McDaid with Conroy no. 11.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭mjp


    Joyce must surely look at man marking Fenton after the way in which Donncha MC hugh nullified his influence and amount of ball he got on the last day. Who can do that job I don't know unless they get Maher to tag him. Silke on Kilkenny mc grath on basquel as wouldn't have the size for Con and Sean fitz to take Con. There's huge amount of match ups to be done but Joyce has been pretty good with his match ups in big games to date.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Was thinking the same thing myself - Maher could easily keep Fenton nullified but would be nullifying himself in the process. Maher is one of the few players that regularly takes route 1 at the opposition, don't fancy losing that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭threeball


    If Kelly is playing midfield surely he's the one to take Fenton. His experience as a defender and also regularly playing midfield makes him the ideal candidate. Fitness is the only question.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Matchups are huge. I'm of the opinion a couple of big calls are required. For me:

    Basquel = McGrath or Glynn. Whoever doesn't pick him up moves out to track Kilkenny. After Glynn doing a great job on P. Clifford I would of thought him but McGrath did well in the half back line against O' Hanlon against Monaghan. Either or.

    Silke on Costello.

    McHugh on Scully.

    Big one is to move Sean Kelly onto O Callaghan. Only two players in Ireland where I feel this is necessary to bring Kelly back and that's O Callaghan and Clifford. It's would be hugely unfair on Fitzgerald or Mulkerrin (probably Fitzgerald as Mulkerrin is a great reader of the game and would do well sitting in front of O Callaghan) but I think it's required. If he sticks with Fitzgerald I'm sure they will keep a second body close to goal.

    Midfield. Maher would I'm sure annoy the hole off Fenton. Other option would be to put Matty standing beside Fenton. He's playing well. Great in the air. Could be a time to step him up and say now is your time to lead. Rather than just worry about Fenton, give Fenton something to worry about going the other way.

    Half forward line of McDaid, Tierney/Maher and D'Arcy. I don't expect us to go short a whole lot (unfortunately) especially early on. To this end. Tierney/Maher and D'Arcy hug the touchline and isolate them one on one keeping kickouts as far away from Fenton Lahiff as possible.

    Full forward line depends what's fit. Walsh/Comer struggling then bench them till 40 to 45 mins, hopefully still in the game bring them and go for it. Finnerty would do well if isolated and decent ball in. If Comer and Walsh not fit then somebody needs to go in beside him.

    All evidence so far we can put up barriers to keep us in the game for a long period. Dublins tenacity to press the ball may test what we have done so far. While they set up defensively like any other team they press the person on the ball a lot more intensely. This can A) lead to turnovers but B) if handling is good and hands are quick you can break their lines.

    McCaffery appears late sub in Heaney to track (Sweeney/Flaherty do the same but Heaney more experienced not to have a lapse in concentration) once lads start to tire empty the bench. Plenty of speed waiting in the wings.

    Need to keep Dublin honest so along with Finnerty another body is required. If its not Walsh and Comer then probably O Conghaile (who plays further out the pitch) and one of Culhane or O Curraoin to play inside with Finnerty.

    Lots of decisions. I fear just going with what we have done so far will potentially be picked apart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    Great post. Id love if Galway do exactly that, especially holding back Comer. I think we'll still be in a low scoring game at half time, provided others actually **** step up and take responsibility for shooting.

    Your last line is the key. If we go with the same approach as every other game this year it'll be death by a thousand cuts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭cosatron


    now is the time to unleash hell. we have the panel and players to play a more expansive type of football.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭threeball


    I dont think we can go too daft on the matchups, otherwise you're spending your time worrying about them and not concentrating on our own game. Scully and Costello are not prolific enough to warrant a man marker. They're no more dangerous than the majority of forwards.

    The only players I'd assign a marker to would be Fenton and O Callaghan. Then if McCaffery comes on put on someone fresh and with legs like Sweeney as you mentioned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Didn't mean matchups as in they'll be following these lads all over the pitch but when the ball is thrown in someone will be standing beside someone and that's the way I expect (for the most part) for them to line up. Our defensive structure will mean whoever comes into certain zones will be picked up by the nearest man.

    In saying that I'd be surprised if Kilkenny is not assigned a marker. In the league management specifically started Eoghan Kelly to follow him around for the day. If they felt he was that important in the league I don't think they'll think differently now. Glynn or McGrath for me will be tracking him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Robert2014


    I've been trying to remember the last time Galway won a game when they were such big outsiders. I remember beating Mayo in 2016 in Castlebar when all the talk was over 50 players turning down an invitation to join the panel under Kevin Walsh at the time. After that we have to go back to the All-Ireland final in 2001 against Meath. However that was a much different team, previous All-Ireland champions and finalists the previous year. They had the inner belief that many of the outside didn't have.

    I'm not sure the players have the belief they can do it. The only way I could see it is for them to get ahead and stay ahead. If they go behind, I can't see them making it up. Also they need at least 2 goals and not concede any. This year in most games apart from London and Derry (missing a player for 2/3s of the game) we get a maximum of 15 or 16 points. That would do it on Saturday, they need to add a couple of goals to it imo.

    I think a win would completely change the narrative around this team, it would be like Leinster v Munster in Croke Park in 2009, but it's very hard to see it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    I think even with the injuries if we just had 2 weeks to plan and prepare we'd have a right good chance. Provided Comer could play a half of football. I mean a fortnight of drilling into each player what's expected when marking x player, working and working on taking goal chances etc.

    But 5 days prep with tired bodies and minds is a big big challenge. Im hoping Comer is held back, I think we'll be in it at half time. Unleash Comer then!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    Ive never driven up but am going with small kids this Saturday. Are there many parking options near Croke Park? City centre would be a long trek for small legs at that hour of the evening so I don't mind being in traffic after the match. Would like the car to be handy enough to get to.

    Also with other big events on is it best to turn off the motorway around maynooth and head northside?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Park in Maynooth / Leixlip, take train in and alight in Drumcondra. Avoids all traffic hassle on the north side.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭MfMan


    They might do a 'Canavan' on it with Comer - start him, take him off near ht, spring him again with 12 minutes left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭Avon8


    Kerry in Croker in 2018 was similar odds to Saturday coming. Mayo in 2016 was bigger again, 5/1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭threeball


    It's 70 years since we last beat Dublin in championship which is a really poor record. We don't beat them too often in the league either which to me points to a lack of belief. For a county with the football tradition we have and arguably a much stronger club scene we should be beating them far more than we actually do. So whether we really believe we can beat them is as big a question as can we beat them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Between Taylor Swift and Pride, I would avoid the city entirely - it will be totally bedlam, bicycle the only option for the locals



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭DK224


    There doesn't seem to be train tickets available online for Maynooth to Drumcondra tomorrow, is it just a matter of buying tickets at the station?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭christy c




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


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    Everybody named. Will have to see what lines out.....

    Gueusing Cathal Sweeney is carrying a knock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Yes. Some of the trains servicing this route may be inter-city and probably won't stop at these closer-in stations for the day that's in it. Other trains just terminate at Maynooth; tickets for these can be bought locally. Note, at Leixlip Louisa Bridge, if the office isn't manned, there are kiosks at the entrance to the station walkway selling tickets. These are usually so slow that by the time your turn comes, you would have walked all the way in anyway (or missed a couple of trains in the meantime). Sometimes, ahem, it's worth chancing getting aboard without a ticket, and buying a return in Drumcondra if you like. On a day like tomorrow, when there's large crowds using the service, most often they just wave passengers through without checking. Note also, if parking at Leixlip LB, make sure to pay the parking toll. They can and do take pleasure in clamping unpaid parkers. You may have to download and install the Apcoa parking app on your phone in advance and set up payment procedures on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭MattressRick




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    Pity about Sweeney. Thought we'd need his energy and legs tomorrow in a big way.

    That forward line is bloody good. Just a pity we're carrying injuries. I still think if Comer isn't certain about a full match I think he should be kept back to make sure he's there for the last 20.



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