Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

1…100101103105106…131

Comments

  • #3062
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The junction at The Crescent and Malahide Road is in an awful state. The cycle lane is to cross the junction. A no right turn, outbound, to The Crescent, should be implemented for safety. And they'll need to put in some measures to reduce speed drastically for anyone coming down Malahide Road who wants to turn left towards Clontarf. It's a disaster waiting to happen.



  • #3063
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122262836#Comment_122262836

    It always has been and some day someone will get killed crossing that road!

    I suppose in terms of the cycle lane, they would argue that under the BusConnects plan for the Malahide road, that cycle path will be removed and instead routed down Brian Road.

    Of course in reality 99% of cyclists will ignore it and continue to use it and it doesn’t do anything for pedestrians anyway.

    I was thinking about how you would fix it properly and this is what I’d do:

    • completely close the Marino crescent entrance and slip there.
    • There are two right turning lanes, turn one into a left turning lane
    • Then you would have a footpath directly to the bus stops, with no interaction with traffic.


  • #3064
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,882 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122233539#Comment_122233539

    Had another look at the works at this junction, and they've already filled in most of the hole now, looks to making good progress. Of course, the progress that they've made has been more than wiped out by starting the same work around the corner on the Howth road 😂. Huge hole there now, with all the wires going in.



  • #3065
    Shedite27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,519 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122262836#Comment_122262836

    I was down there today, looks like it’s no right turn to the crescent outbound now


    IMG_4070.jpeg


  • #3066
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,451 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Was away for 4.5 weeks till yesterday, I couldn't see any progress from Connolly to Strandville Ave, except the bus stop at Strandville having come along a bit. Newcomen Bridge still totally dug up with pipes and tubes exposed. Ffs.



  • Advertisement
  • #3067
    Gloomtastic!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122272634#Comment_122272634

    Apart from the big open holes, the rest seems to be in finishing mode. Most of the time-consuming paving looks finished, around Fairview anyway. I think September is about right for an end to works.



  • #3068
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,880 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122272634#Comment_122272634

    Can't agree with that. There certainly has been progress between Talbot Street and the Five Lamps.



  • #3069
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,451 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    image.png

    inbound was very busy this morning, as usual. great to see. hurry the feck up with outbound though.



  • #3070
    Shedite27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,519 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Looks like they did a lot of resurfacing around Edges corner overnight. First bit of the final surface I think



  • #3071
    Citizen Six
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭Citizen Six


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122263267#Comment_122263267

    14 workers in hi viz there at lunch time. I might have to revise my timeline. 🤣



  • Advertisement
  • #3072
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,882 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122278927#Comment_122278927

    Yes, I think that they've prioritised this junction, for whatever reason. They were putting in new lampposts when I went past the other day, including taking up the concrete around a pole that was brand new, so not sure what they're doing there.

    In terms of work left, they've got to finish the corner that they're working on, then there's the lights on the Bram Stoker Park side (I think, they may have done this side already), then road surfacing, but after that, it's done. The section from Alfie Byrne road to the Malahide Road junction will be completely done, with only minor works left. It's probably an aim of theirs to have a section to which they can point and say "This is done, both inbound and out!"



  • #3073
    Gloomtastic!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    We should have a Boards meet up when it’s finished to walk along the route discussing the particular merits and pitfalls of this project. Turns out I know the chief engineer. Maybe he could join us. 😎



  • #3074
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,451 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122279371#Comment_122279371

    Cusack's please.

    I've noticed already that much of the newly laid footpath works have been dug up and just replaced with tarmac patches, it looks awful. This is normal for DCC but I hope they don't intend on leaving them this way.



  • #3075
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,440 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122277606#Comment_122277606

    I see the capacity of the cycle path has already been vastly exceeded then?



  • #3076
    VonLuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,477 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122282527#Comment_122282527

    I wonder what determines whether a cycle path capacity has been exceeded?



  • #3077
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,440 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122282863#Comment_122282863

    Like the picture above shows, a large group exceeding the width of the narrow cycle path? Any other riders may find it faster to just use the road.



  • #3078
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,451 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122282928#Comment_122282928

    to be fair we were at a red light, although i didn't think cyclists stopped at red lights



  • #3079
    Citizen Six
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭Citizen Six


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122282928#Comment_122282928

    I already switch to the road to pass a lot of people out. I'm generally on it outside of peak commute times.

    I've said before that the path will actually slow my commute, which I'm ok with, but sometimes I leave it very tight to get to work. Takes me ten minutes by bike, but I can do it in seven if I have to. If I drive, I need to allow 45 minutes, at times, for the journey. But actually can't remember the last time I drove into work.



  • #3080
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    While this cycle path is very welcome, it is actually designed to an insufficient capacity.

    This cycle path varies between 1.5m to 2m. However the Cycle Design Manual set out that busy cycle lanes like this are to ideally use 2.5m and at a minimum 2m.

    2.5m/2m would allow for space for overtaking by faster cyclists, etc.

    Unfortunately I believe this project was designed prior to the Cycle Manual being published.



  • #3081
    Citizen Six
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭Citizen Six


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122283625#Comment_122283625

    Yeah, I've frightened a few cyclists while overtaking. I always announce that I'm passing on the right. Not everyone is set up to hear me though.

    For all the money that it's cost, there's a good few issues with the whole thing. DCC won't hear any of it though.



  • Advertisement
  • #3082
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,451 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Seem to be resurfacing the seville place junction tonight, the cycle lanes are a kind of beige colour crossing the roads.

    Another dull men's club update.



  • #3083
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,440 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122283625#Comment_122283625

    Was in the UK recently where they're building new cycle lanes through the city and this looks more like it:

    2024-06-21 12_57_46-Facebook.png 2024-06-21 12_58_02-Facebook.png


  • #3084
    Sir Galahad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Sir Galahad


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122283123#Comment_122283123

    Someone must have told them they had to stop for the photo.



  • #3085
    Los Cafeteros
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Los Cafeteros


    Saw numerous "teams" out today working on planting, paving- the 'nice bits'.. On foot today and it was really noticable how perilous for cyclists the outbound route is with ongoing construction- a segregated lane cant come soon enough.



  • #3086
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,451 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    No way its finished in September as they are just not working on the outbound at all. And what the actual f**k are they doing with the Alfie Byrne East wall road bike lane? Hasn't been touched in like 2 months and F all needs to be done.



  • #3087
    Gloomtastic!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    The Malahide Road/St Aidan’s Park Road Junction beside Sparkle is not for the faint-hearted. Proper cross-country driving for a second or two. Turning onto Marino Crescent is just as bad.

    I would worry about fartcans and their lowered suspension but f@ck ‘em! 😝



  • #3088
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,882 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122308295#Comment_122308295

    They are definitely still working on it outbound, but the leaving cert was still going on up until yesterday, which will have limited the amount of areas that they could work on.

    On the East Wall Road bike lane, I've no idea what the hold up here is, I wonder if they're waiting on the lights to be commissioned?



  • #3089
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,882 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Drove out from the city this morning, there was loads of people working on it from Newcomen Bridge all the way out to the Howth Road junction.

    Speaking of the Howth Road junction, the works are finished! The path is complete anyway, with the pedestrian tiles down and everything. There is still work going on in the cycle lane, looked like a small enough hole there, but I only got a fleeting glance at that. Looked like it could open fairly shortly.



  • #3090
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122283625#Comment_122283625

    Don't worry they can dig it all up again next year to add in the additional width. Works to be completed in 2027.



  • Advertisement
  • #3091
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122321566#Comment_122321566

    Yes, I believe within 10 years that we will be back upgrading it and expanding it.

    The good news is that would be a relatively straight forward job. Remember it isn't building a bike lane that is taking so long and causing so much disruption, it is upgrading the water and sewage pipes that is taking all that time and disruption.

    Widening the cycle path would barely be noticed for the most part and could be done in much smaller sections.



Advertisement