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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    She can't be fired now sure the LC results will be posted soon, and then she had to do her report on the new Junior Infant in the school around the corner from RTÉ, and then she will look at CAO and how its hard to find accommodation for students in UCD, then its the JC results. I mean that's a lot of news to cover over then next few weeks. I notice she was absent from the Election counts!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,774 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Load of crud….. no mention of paying mediocre presenters huge wedges for NO REASON.

    Of course I realise that is not the major problem, but it’s where the rubber hits the road for the consumer.

    That’s where any sensible DG would start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It is small but it is where the crisis began, you have to remember RTÉ honestly believe that they provide a strong service to the Irish Audience.

    Lets look at 2 aspects that affect content

    1. The increase in funding to the independent sector from 40m (the statutory amount) to 85m on average, it is the on average part you want to look at, RTÉ won't achieve 85m in 2025, this is due to the fact that RTÉ no long have the resources or experience in their independent production unit, so this average will be spread out over the next 4 years, an increase of 10m in 2025 to 50m, then to 60m and in the final 2 years they'd hope to have 90m in each year, this unfortunately will mean saving money up in 2025 and 2026 for 2027 and 2028. So the audience won't see any effect, if there is any effect.
    2. Drama they are doubling their drama from 30 hours to 60 hours, much of this will be co-productions, some from Screen Ireland and the Sound and Vision fund, but little to nothing from RTÉ commissioning/IPU, again as I have stated before RTÉ still has an Acting head of Drama, for the last 3 years at least. They would hope that international co-productions will continue to be available to them over the next few years, but if co-pros become less of a thing for producers, RTÉ will lose out, there is no figure for the amount of money they are spending on Drama, just an increase in hours.

    I have only just scanned the document but will read it fully when I get a chance. If you plan to read it fully please post up anything about content that you see.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    From the press release "Implementing the strategy over the next five years is contingent on a resolution of the funding of public service media by Government, expected to be confirmed in 2024."

    No that "Implementing the strategy over the next five years is to move RTÉ passed the the problems that faced the organisation over the last number of years. RTÉ hope for the support of the government in helping to change the funding of public service media over the next number of years, but we will aim to make RTÉ a better organisation regardless of funding."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭amlinopta


    George Lee not featuring much these days, as busy as Emma?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,262 ✭✭✭Tow


    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    He was on tonight about Uisce Éireann's plan to bring water from the Shannon to Dublin.

    But you are right, while you don't expect them to be on every night, you think at least once a week.

    And also absent from the Election Counts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,774 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Must be no ‘climate conferences’ anywhere around the world these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So got chatGPT to read the intros from the DG and the Chair.

    DG: The strategy for RTÉ from 2025-2029 aims to ensure the organization's future and relevance by transforming it into a strong, independent public service. Key goals include providing trusted news, fostering creative ambition, supporting Irish culture, and uniting audiences. This plan follows a period of organizational turmoil and relies on the commitment of staff and partners, as well as funding reform. RTÉ aspires to be transparent, accountable, and deliver value for money, building a modern service that enriches Irish life and garners national pride.

    Chair: Public Service media, including RTÉ, faces fundamental challenges due to technological advances, social media, and changing consumption habits. RTÉ's strategy, endorsed by its Board, outlines a realistic roadmap for radical evolution to continue serving Irish society. The plan emphasizes financial sustainability, improved governance, and cultural reform. It aims to restore public trust, bring RTÉ activities closer to its audience, and support the independent audio and video sector. The Board commits to supporting the Director General and the team in implementing this strategy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    And I read the first page which states : -

    Introduction

    Paragraph 1: RTÉ aims to do what would normal be done by the organisation over the next five years and also clear changes required inside RTÉ.
    Paragraph 2: A dual focus - Relevant and engaging content for audiences of all kinds and development of streaming and on-demand.
    Paragraph 3: Proper funding is required to make this plan work, something which is in the hands of the government. They want to go From main Broadcaster to main Streamer.
    Paragraph 4: Organisational will be streamlined and improved with new ways of working internally and with partners externally. Higher quality content and more impactful. Unique Irish stories, national moments and shared experiences.
    Paragraph 5: Building on the progress made on Goverance and improving communication in the organisation. Continutity of what is working e.g. increase leader ship on ESG issues through goals and initativews. Leadership in examining and contributing to policy debate and legislation especial on prominence codes, net neutrality and AI.

    2024 Laying out the changes

    The focus has been on laying foundations for change and the delivery of this strategy, adding to the activities achieved. Over 24 will show early progress on: -

    1. Launching a verification mark to aid audiences navigate mis/dis information
    2. close 4 digital radio stations for the new audio app and content strategy
    3. Sign-in for RTÉ player, to improve audience personalised features
    4. Finalising commissioning roadmap for broader portfolio of genres and programmes from 25
    5. Engaging with CnaM as they consider minimum statutory spend as recommended by the FOMC
    6. Participate in the Comprehensive review of the provision of Irish language services in line with the FOMC's recommendations
    7. Appointing people to critical roles, including Directors of Audio and Video
    8. Reviewing staffing and developing new production models for video and audio.
    9. A new restructured commercial team to strengthen ad sales
    10. 40 people to exit
    11. Highlight what we need to modernize RTÉ physical infrastructure
    12. Publish a new governance framework based on reports of recent months.

    Those items in bold really aren't up to RTÉ.

    I'd hope this would have always been the case.

    A lot of the other stuff is what most organisation are doing so I suspect that RTÉ would have done them anyway, much of this should be cost neutral TBH.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,978 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    Folks, "JUST DONT PAY THE LICENCE FEE", I havent paid it since last August 2023, the letters have stopped arriving into my letterbox since March 2024. Do not engage with them.

    Im sure the non -payments/ renewals is very high, hence they cant take thousands to court in an already overloaded district court system and a prison system which is at full capacity.

    Fook them, rte as a business model is flawed and rotten to the core.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Page 5: Sorry my page numbers were off (lots of glossiness)

    Goals and Initiatives

    Goal 1: Engage with Audiences with high-quality impactful content
    a. Video content strategy addressing audiences streaming preferences
    b. Audio strategy
    c. Enhancing Digital news and CA
    d. Expanding Live cultural and public events coverage

    Goal 2: Provide excellent streaming products and services
    a. quality products providing personalised experiences
    b. RTÉ Player as a destination like that of Netflix
    c. New ways to listen to RTÉ Audio and via the News app
    d. More access to archive

    Goal 3: Diversify production and support sectoral development across Ireland
    a. Increase commissioning, diversity of content and origin
    b. new Cork based production facility
    c. De-centralisation from Dublin (re-balance)

    Goal 4: Ensure robust financial management
    a. transparent reporting
    b. control and reduce operating costs/ drive efficacies
    c. commercial success based on digital revenues
    d. capital plan for Montrose

    Goal 5: Build a sustainable, trusted and responsible organisation
    a. Re-skill, smaller and agile workforce
    b. positive work environment
    c. DIE policies
    d. best in class governance framework.

    IMO this is mainly business babble that you've read every year from the organisations you probably work in. It's all about marketing little to do with content.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Heard Bakhurst on earlier. 'Changes' to the LLS and Fair City featured prominently. You'd be shaking your head - if RTE still sees it's future in terms of long past their sell date shows like these. Can only be headed one way, one foot firmly planted in the grave.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,262 ✭✭✭Tow


    The Toy Show mentioned a couple of times in the report, they still think it is great.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



  • Registered Users Posts: 461 ✭✭Kingslayer


    RTE2 could be ditched tomorrow and no big loss. One station is plenty if they trim the fat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,643 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    I'm still dying to know what happened to all the unsold Toy Show The Musical merch 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They sold it to pay off the executives !

    There is a twitter battle between viewers and writers of the show.

    You'd think both shows were being axed.

    What they should be annoyed about is that FC will move set yet again and TLLS will be produced off site, and maybe at some point they might both be given to the private sector!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,965 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,478 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I saw this elsewhere in boards and feel I have to post it here.

    Might also describe RTEs use of barter account!

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The section on how people access media is interesting and it seems that RTE is finally taking notice. Whether it can do all those wonderful things involving streaming and digital audio remains to be seen. It should have been paying attention to these things about ten years ago. Streaming and podcasts get a mention so RTE might want to up its game on these things. The problem is that it is still RTE.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,262 ✭✭✭Tow


    I can see moving the Fair City set offsite as freeing up valuable land to sell. However, I can only assume the reason for moving the LLS is due to excessive in-house staffing costs. Otherwise it makes no sense, unless the owners of the new site are 'well connected'...

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭Field east


    to BOIL ALL DOWN - just imagine that RTE had the finances available to do all of this back through the years and look at the debacle re the management it had over that time - a lot of them have resigned , ‘moved on’, gone out sick, let go, etc. SO when we look at what is left ( between management and presenters) I AM COMPLETELY FAiLING TO SEE HOW RTE IS GOING TO ACHIEVE IT’s PLAN’s GOALS WITH THIS LOT?

    And the morale is so low within the station who would be bothered applying for a job there?



  • Registered Users Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    id have liked to have heard yer man backhurst say "and to sum up we will be calling in the fraud squad to investigate all the deals dee and others that were in charge did" wishful thinking i know…


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    ps wheres my free,fancy rte flip-flops...?

    pps wheres my wheres my rte macaroons,kevin?

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I was going to continue reading and updating here but 2 things came to me

    1. All of the management babel and all of the digitization expansion would have all happened anyway.
    2. Their decision to increase funding comes down to the move of Fair City and The Late Late Show to the independent sector this is at least 15million of that extra 40m they are planning, throw in The Daytime show today and that would at another 5 million, perhaps give over Nationwide another 5 million, with 15 million to then add to that, I wonder where that will come from Sports programming? Which in reality means there is no change in this plan what so ever.

    Purely to increase their commitment to Indepenent production.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    we all know there wont be any real change…id nearly bet theres champagne and canapes on order as we speak to celebrate getting yet more money…


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    ps wheres my free,fancy rte flip-flops...?

    pps wheres my wheres my rte macaroons,kevin?

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,607 ✭✭✭political analyst


    The moving of a soap opera to studios outside the city in which it is set is not unprecedented, i.e. EastEnders is filmed in Hertfordshire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    But RTÉ don't have the money for a new set. They just re-did that set a few years ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,394 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Could they please in the name of jaysus fix the RTE player?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think that is the main part of the new direction.

    1. RTÉ good
    2. RTÉ Player needs to be improved
    3. RTÉ will move FC and TLLC to Indo Sector
    4. RTÉ governance and other business type stuff to be better
    5. RTÉ to remain the same
    6. RTÉ good


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  • Registered Users Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    yeah but just wait for the disturbance money claims to start rolling in…be another round of "contractual obligations" and "legal advice"


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    ps wheres my free,fancy rte flip-flops...?

    pps wheres my wheres my rte macaroons,kevin?

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,701 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    McGrath said the cabinet would look at the funding model in the next few weeks. Which means they won't look at it until the recess.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    IMO this is what will happen: -

    1. FC staff to be offered redundancy from RTÉ or move to another area
    2. FC will be commissioned to the Indo Sector
    3. FC / RTÉ staff will be re-hired by the Indo Sector for the production
    4. Those that stay will be move to other RTÉ programming while other that go will be offered a job in FC

    It's just pass the parcel. I imagine the Executive Producer of FC will get a nice little redundancy and then set up Fair City Production Limited.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Apparently it was all just a misunderstanding about Lottie Ryan and the gig was only for five weeks.

    https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/lottie-ryan-speaks-out-after-speculation-she-was-axed-from-new-2fm-show/a338451415.html

    At this stage, it is just too difficult to try to understand how RTE is "managed".

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭downtheroad


    What a clown. She couldn't have mentioned the 5 week period in all the self publicity she announced when she got the gig?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It is a convenient explanation though and she still, as expected, stays with 2FM.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭Karppi


    it is just too difficult to try to understand how RTE is "managed".

    Badly?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,442 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Forgive me my two cents worth.

    I work with (amongst other things) a multinational company, people working in different locations all across the globe at this stage.

    Each person is responsible for their "output", each person is responsible for the decisions that they make for the company. Board meetings are held weekly. Outcomes and current trends analyzed. Decisions are made by the CEO (ahem) and if those decisions are bad, he/she is removed. Yearly analysis of all aspects of income are delved into, results of decisions taken have verifiable and tangible results. Costs to deliverability are discussed and all aspects of costing is negotiated and agreed before production/implementation is given the go ahead.

    Yes we have a yearly budget to work with. This is not an arbitrary figure. It is a fixed budget. All running costs and strategies are worked into this budget.

    RTE is a fixed location, fixed budget, fixed personnel (for the most part) organization.

    I FAIL to see how this semi-state cannot be run properly. It's not exactly rocket science. Obviously years of mismanagement, incompetence and corruption, have made RTE what it is today. A MESS. Do I have faith that proper management will ever exist in this organization? Nope. It's a culture within Irish Semi-States/Tax funded Quangos that budgets are to be blown, management is to be rewarded for stupidity, incompetence and waste.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭jmcc


    This is waaaaay beyond badly. :) It is almost in a different universe.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It is RTE. The main problem is that it is a semi-state trying to be a commercial organisation while being supported with a licence fee and taxpayer bailouts. It has skewed the commercial broadcast market (Radio and TV) in Ireland for decades and the government has always stepped in to protect its friends in RTE. With RTE, there's no penalty for failure.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,965 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Well if this was the case, why was this not mentioned when it was announced Lottie got the gig? Someone is telling porkies and it sure ain't RTE, as It's only Lottie who mentioned it was a 5 week gig. 2FM really is a shambles.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Could be face-saving or the left hand not knowing what the right is doing. It is a station in search of a market while experiencing a mid-life crisis. RTE could be trying out presenters to see who would work best much like what happened before Oliver Callan was selected for the 09:00 slot on RTE1.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Seems that the licence fee is causing problems for FFG.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tensions-rise-around-rte-reform-as-key-committee-wants-tv-licence-scrapped/a154951082.html

    Hard to make RTE look competent but these politicians do it. It could end up destroying their electoral chances much like the Irish Water tax destroyed Labour.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭fuzzy dunlop


    I laughed me bollix off when you posted the blurb about the 'kitchen table' market.I never heard this term before but it says it all. The literal kitchen table market must be on average 80 years old now. The term reminds me of school mornings in 1983 when I was 9 years old and coming down to the breakfast table with a head on me. The father would have a transistor radio on and I would despair when I heard the ridiculous jingle of whatever show (maybe Derek Davies) they would listen to. It's burned into my memory in a hilarious way. It might be p^ssing down outside in mid November and this summer jingle would suddenly come on followed by the Nordie accent of Davies which didn't exactly communicate sunshine..

    The so called kitchen table market in many parts of the country have been commuter markets for decades now. And that market is competing with pod-casters etc for at least a decade now. The consumer in Ireland has 100% sovereignty over what they listen to but RTE Still gets to charge us with this ridiculous fee on penalty of prison.

    When you look at things like the toy show I suddenly wonder who actually watches it? I suspect its main audience could be people in their 40s and 50s. I showed it to my kids here in the Netherlands last Christmas and they were underwhelmed by it. There is just too much choice now.

    I like television for the reason that there is a sense that I am interacting with human beings that might be using a camera to record and broadcast a dialogue between other human beings to me. However that element of broadcasting is something younger generations didn't grow up with so much, so won't miss. And what is left of it could be maintained at a fraction of the revenue generated by the license fee.

    I spent some time traveling in the Baltic states about 15 years ago.The countries were still rife with corruption. I remember once one of my Lithuanian friends brought me to her brothers place of work where he was a receptionist for this PR type firm. Their equivalent of say Miriam O' Callaghan came along while I was there. She was a nobody who thought she was a somebody. If she had any real talent she would have been working in St. Petersburg or maybe Berlin and It immediately made me think of of RTE. Honest to God, when they are using terms like 'kitchen table' market they are on the verge of bring back 'Going Strong'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭Expunge


    couple of other little things from the RTE Statement of Strategy.

    A new RTE News dedicated 'Climate Unit' is to be established and based in Cork by 2026.

    Also 2025: Launch of exercise to scope and identify new base in Cork

    2027: New Cork production facility opens with "major daily peaktime" programme coming from there, as well as selected other formerly Dublin based productions. (seems a tad ambitious unless they already have a building earmarked)

    2026: New look schedules across RTE 1 and RTE 2, including "cultural events of scale"

    (bloody Concert Orchestra miming along with Bressie at Collins Barracks in the rain, or some such schoite)

    2027: "Refreshed peak and off peak schedules across our four national radio stations, as well as our digital only station, RTE Gold."

    (are some of our most beloved stars on notice, or will some of the old grunts be replaced by new grunts from TIK TOK etc.?)



  • Registered Users Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    what the fuurk are "cultural events of scale" ? and will the poor "talent" be sent to exile in cork?


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    ps wheres my free,fancy rte flip-flops...?

    pps wheres my wheres my rte macaroons,kevin?

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Agreement apparently still not reached on a funding model for RTE. Catherine Martin still pushing for direct exchequer funding but it's hard to see that getting through if none of the government's other big beasts back it. Only thing possibly in her favour is new taoiseach and finance minister have AFAIK yet to publicly declare their preference on this…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Any word of charges being pressed for the fraudulent accounting of payments and waste of taxpayers money giving golden handshakes etc, the whole thing stinks,,dee must know where the bodies are buried.



  • Registered Users Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    does a bear shite in the woods?of course she knows where the bodies are buried…thats why no one is going after her…


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    ps wheres my free,fancy rte flip-flops...?

    pps wheres my wheres my rte macaroons,kevin?

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Madeoface


    And now I recall my late mother listening to harbour hotel in the mid 80's as I had lunch at home in secondary school.

    Even then I was thinking wtf? People like this.....

    Like fingers Fingleton and Anglo Fitzy, Forbes will balls this out in her locality not giving a pish.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,262 ✭✭✭Tow


    I was told by member of RTE staff that they got rid of Harbour Hotel as Ray Burke liked listening to it.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



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