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Soldier beats a woman unconscious, gets a great reference from his CO. Jailed after appeal

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  • #152
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,275 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Feel so sorry for that poor woman to go through all that and then be cast aside by the judge like a piece of trash because someone might lose their job. So belittling to her to say well he saved you having to go to trial when the prosecution had all the evidence for attempted murder as far as I'm concerned - beating her til she fell and then continuing to beat her. Should have been attempted manslaughter. Watched a UK program there a few days ago about one punch murderers and judges only allowed to give the max sentence which was only 4-5 years for ruining peoples lives

    Sickening judgement from the judge but just one of the numerous judgements handed down constantly for the worst behaviour.
    Really needs to be minimum sentencing enforced in law (but oooh judges say they need to be allowed to rule independently, screw that, Nolan is an absolute shame on this country) and if we can't home the prisoners then build another bloody prison - simple - lack of space should not be an excuse for not locking up the depraved or rabid animals



  • #153
    baxterooneydoody
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭baxterooneydoody


    Ss there any recourse for her to sue him civilly for damages, to be awarded 3 thousand for this is pitiful, 50 grand would hardy cover what she went through. Glad to see hes losing his job, hopefully he'll see jail time if the dpp appeals



  • #154
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122285449#Comment_122285449

    In a statement, Mr Martin said: "The establishment of this Tribunal of Inquiry, along with increased levels of investment, is another important step in the renewal of our Defence Forces as a rewarding career where every individual feels valued.

    🤔



  • #155
    Green Peter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Green Peter


    I think the judge and the defence force management got this one badly wrong. There should be no place in the DF for this guy and he deserved a sentence. Fair play to the victim for standing up for herself and other victims.



  • #156
    gmisk
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122285421#Comment_122285421

    Errr probably?

    https://www.thejournal.ie/tribunal-of-inquiry-established-to-look-at-handling-of-bullying-harassment-and-sexual-misconduct-in-defence-forces-6415091-Jun2024/#:~:text=In%20a%20stark%20paragraph%20around,abuses%20women%20in%20its%20ranks.%E2%80%9D

    "Different sources available to the IRG-DF conclude that, at best, the Defence Forces barely tolerates women and, at its worst, verbally, physically, sexually and psychologically abuses women in its ranks.”



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  • #157
    fatbhoy
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    And the judge making a big deal of him pleading guilty, as if he's so gracious for doing so, and asking the woman if she knew how great it was that he was pleading guilty…of course he's going to plead guilty given all the evidence against him, some of it CCTV footage, and the repercussions for him of pleading not-guilty and then being found guilty, which would have been the case. WTF.



  • #158
    omerin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭omerin


    A prick of the highest order.

    Now that his mug is all over the place, let's hope nothing bad happens to him.

    The judge needs to answer some serious questions, then should be removed from his post.

    Goes without saying but this will be before a competent judge ASAP



  • #159
    walshb
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    The judge pretty much said “wtf is your problem, love? He pled guilty, didn’t he. Get over it. And be grateful for what I’m doing for ya here.” Lowlife!!!!



  • #160
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122285480#Comment_122285480

    Timing is perfect. He may have escaped justice in a court of law but has become the poster child of the abusive behaviour within the defense forces. Hopefully every woman of honor will be exonerated because of his actions.



  • #161
    walshb
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122285388#Comment_122285388

    Actually, women’s aid was not on it



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  • #162
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122285449#Comment_122285449

    Chief of Staff Lieutenant General Seán Clancy…"Since being appointed I have made it abundantly clear, there is no place for any form of abusive behaviour in the Defence Forces. We are working tirelessly to redesign our grievance procedures and HR policies, rolling out mandatory sexual ethics and respectful relationships workshops and holding people to account for misconduct and misbehaviour."

    Crotty must have missed those workshops, considering he was shouting homophobic slurs in public and then viciously attacked a woman in the street, beating her unconscious.



  • #163
    [Deleted User]
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    She was on Drivetime earlier

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22409418/



  • #164
    walshb
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    I think the DPP will have to act here. This really is whipping up outrage. And if ever a fooking march was justified…



  • #165
    Mrmoe
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    Absolute disgrace of a sentence or lack of one. There was no mitigating circumstances in this case. The writing was on the wall with the CCTV evidence. The guilty plea wasn’t due to some new found moral fortitude but a selfish attempt to save himself from a harsh sentence. Absolute vile human being. The judge I can’t comprehend, I haven’t been agitated by such a story in a long time.



  • #166
    HildaOgdenx
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    The process has begun to get rid of him, it seems, which is something at least.

    Not often I'm speechless but I just can't believe that thug was handed a suspended sentence, and the judge telling that poor woman, he was a great lad for coming to court. Jesus wept. 😡

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  • #167
    fritzelly
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122285525#Comment_122285525

    If the DPP don't take action that would be another travesty for the poor woman - hell take it to a trial court



  • #168
    Leg End Reject
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    Here's the hard man who boasted "Two to knock her down and two to knock her out" after he ran away when another man intervened.

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    I doubt he's smirking now with all the anger and backlash. Fair play to his friends who stayed after he ran away like a coward.

    https://forumofgames.com/



  • #169
    buried
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    If there was ever a need for a go fund me page, its for this victim. The state and its regime has outdone itself in its absolute disgraceful disregard for this young woman. If there is one for her, please post it up.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • #170
    RonanG86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭RonanG86


    Part of the judge's reasoning for suspending the sentence was that Crotty would lose his job in the Defence Forces.

    Now the Defence Forces are formally dismissing him anyway. Cos obviously they're doing that. Even without the public outrage I'd imagine they'd be taking this step.

    What sort of drugs was the judge on?



  • #171
    walshb
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    One march. Two causes. Sentence that scumbag and remove that pox of a judge.

    The system worked all the way up to a judge suspending a custodial sentence. He’s a danger to society!! Same as Crotty is



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  • #172
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,275 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122285562#Comment_122285562

    Judges are untouchable otherwise a lot of them would be out of a job



  • #173
    bucketybuck
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122285539#Comment_122285539

    His friends?

    This is a guy who felt comfortable sharing the words "Two to knock her down and two to knock her out" with his friends.

    I can't imagine the reaction if I said that to my mates, but he was quite comfortable doing so. They clearly are cut from the same cloth.



  • #174
    Purple Mountain
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122285474#Comment_122285474

    In Australia, they rightly called one punch attacks, a coward's punch. While this scumbag punched this lady more than once, he is the epitome of cowardice. Attacking a defenceless lady unprovoked and then bragging about it. Absolute coward.

    I personally have a challenge for him, since he has been described as such a great lad.

    "You didn't get jail time but I'm sure you would like to atone for your crime. Step into a locked room with two men of your own size related to that lady, with no cameras running."

    Let's see what kind of a brave man you are then.

    To thine own self be true



  • #175
    Leg End Reject
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122285642#Comment_122285642

    I don't know if they were the same friends, but whoever was with him that night stayed at the scene. The scumbag ran as soon as another man intervened.

    I've no idea if the friends just stood by while he assaulted her but at least they had the balls not to run.

    https://forumofgames.com/



  • #176
    Tork
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    Ironically he's now paying a heavier price than he would have done if the judge had simply sent him to prison. There's no way that would have made much of a dent in the news headlines. He'd be out in a few months knowing our justice system. His name and face are all over social media and I can see this story getting worse for him in the coming days. Not that I have any sympathy for the pup.



  • #177
    [Deleted User]
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    He can take one for the lads



  • #178
    Strazdas
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284530#Comment_122284530

    The most bizarre aspect was the judge being concerned for the attacker's career prospects (!). This wasn't a soldier up on a shoplifting charge or for a minor theft at the army barracks - this was a violent thug who beat a young woman unconscious on the street.



  • #179
    Purple Mountain
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122285729#Comment_122285729

    Someone of his ilk who can do that to a defenceless woman would possibly brazen it out regardless of his pathetic mug all over the media.

    He doesn't sound like someone who cares much about other people's feelings.

    To thine own self be true



  • #180
    Tork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,644 ✭✭✭Tork


    No but everyone else knows who he is now.



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  • #181
    LambshankRedemption
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284533#Comment_122284533

    Who over the age of 14 nevermind a feicin army officer uses Snapchat?!?



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