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The Ryan Tubridy Show **Mod: Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    It is also affecting the Q102 inheritance for Andy Preston.

    If you schedule a programme that kills listenership at that time of day you effectively "wind" the radio station.

    Virgin Radio UK's core audience are turning away. The very reason they would listen - music.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Has de bould Noel's wallet stopped plying crip new €50 euro notes to his auld mates to influence social media?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭yagan


    Perhaps they prefer payment in lunches and dinners.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It is easier to pass of corporate entertainment as an expense to the tax man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭Kingslayer


    NK is no dope. I reckon he is starting to realise that throwing money at this problem is not going to solve it. You don't bet the farm on a pair of 2s.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,622 ✭✭✭Tork


    If they want to keep control of the narrative and save face, the next step is Ryan's return to Dublin and to Q102. We'll hear how Ryan loved London but really there's no place like home. Where things go from there, who knows? What they really can't let get out into the open are the dismal ratings from the UK. Perhaps Virgin don't want to hang him out to dry publically, so it's in everybody's interests to send him home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭yagan


    But when you consider what Bryan used to make you can see why NK would want to get his commission back on track.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    His current salary comprises of 50% Virgin Radio UK plus 50% Q102/News UK IRL (Formerly Wireless) and locals in Ireland. So he would have to take a 50% pay cut. Then Virgin Radio UK would have to go into the process of attempting to clear up the mess. Common sense is prevailing and people are tuning elsewhere with Tubridy being the main reason for that. His production team and backroom teams at Virgin Radio UK and Q102 know this, meanwhile Tubridy carries on charging and forging blindly and boldly forth on the horseback of his own mammoth ego. Listening to him today it sounds like he has never once been air checked. It should also be considered that an exit from Virgin Radio UK may mean a total exit from all, as he has damaged Q102's audience equally. He has the potential to step in the du-du again as he did during his negotiations with Kevin Bakhurst last year. He could have been on 170k a year, doing 1 hour a day on air with 5-6 weeks off. Instead he is probably earning half that and is so committed, he is crying that he can't attend the 1/4 finals at Wimbledon later this year. He is playing lovely senior hurling alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭Paterson Jerins


    Agreed E, the abominable doctor was truly obsessed. An awful obnoxious poster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,862 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Oh no, P, wasn’t referring to him. Was he site banned twice like ButtSuki/Alser100 was?

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,176 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    And to think that they both could have stayed possibly forever, certainly for many more years, on the pig's back, had greed not overtaken them completely.

    They weren't alone in the debacle that was going on at RTE but they certainly played their part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭yagan


    It really felt like the hubris of the Bertie bubble continued on within RTE up until then. I don't doubt that there's still lifers in there getting far in excess of any return, but it does seem like Montrose culture merely genuflected when every one else got kneecapped.



  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,862 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    No, sure he’s still active and don’t think he’s ever been sitebanned, let alone twice!

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    RTE is a slightly different organisation to the one from which Tubridy was dumped. It is facing increased political pressure and the licence fee issue still has not been resolved. Tubridy is very much the face of the payments scandal and was the straw that broke the camel's back.

    Given his less than stellar performance on Virgin Radio and Q102 etc, it is obvious that he was being overpaid by RTE. The problem for Tubridy and NKM is that he's an RTE lifer who is finding it very difficult to survive outside of RTE.

    Naturally, his fans are going to stand up for him. The numbers don't support their enthusiasm. News UK and the Murdochs are not known for tolerating failure when it comes to audience figures and earnings.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Even RTE lifers got paycapped while Tubridy claimed to have taken a paycut.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,235 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I’m pretty sure Bryan’s triumphant return to his beloved home sod will look something like this;

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    afterall, he is a senior hurler, returning from London you know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I've referenced this before,that posters MO is to tell everybody how he's not obsessed,spew some bile, have a meltdown and rereg.

    No matter how he spins it,that is the reality.....going on for a good few years at this stage.

    Strange fish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,838 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Beggars cant be choosers... Tubridy needs all the listeners he can get... even those hate listening!

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭yagan


    I only caught a snippet of one his lls on a gogglebox repeat and I was stunned by how terrible it was.

    As I said before I was without a tv for twenty years so missed his tenure so I find it fascinating in him as an example of how wasteful the tv license is.

    Im sure he has some fans, but they can elect to tune into his current slot without any license fee involved.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭Kingslayer


    I can't see Tubs ever being on the kind of money he was on with RTE again. NK may be calling in favours and using his connections to cheerlead for Tubs but the chances of him using his own money to bring Tubs back to Ireland are near zero. Tubridy will probably be covering any costs himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,817 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    THe longer he is away from Ireland, the harder it will be for him to get a job back here.

    People are forgetting about him. But they'll remember him enough to get annoyed if he was offered a job again in rte any time in the next 5 years at least.

    Best he could do is to return to take up a radio position on newstalk or such. But it would be a brave company to employ him on big wages at present.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭animalinside


    The youtube views for his bookshelf aren't doing well that's for sure. Usually people expect to get around $2-8 per thousand views, so for the bookshelf that's what - around €5 a video? Maybe due to them being longer videos and able to fit more ads in it might be more but can't be that much.

    He's used his various legacy platforms to talk about the series to an audience of millions of people, including a whole article in a major national sunday newspaper, and yet somehow manages to barely make 1k views, how is that even possible? Even if it was just full of farting noises you'd expect there to be more carry-over from millions and millions of people with that kind of advertisment.

    I know it's on apple podcast and audible as well, which conveniently don't show numbers, but only youtube has the video and I don't really see the point of not using youtube, that's how I would watch it or listen to it if I had any inclination to. I don't see why numbers on the other platforms would be much greater.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The Irish Mail on Sunday isn't a major national newspaper. The way that people read newspapers has changed too. They no longer read every article and some people will glance at the main news section and then go to the sports or other section.

    With RTE radio, there is no discernable cost for people who listened to Tubridy's radio show. With his newspaper column, people have to buy the newspaper (or read it online). One involves spending real money just to read his column. Tubridy's podcast is a sponsored one and the sponsor will be concerned about whether the podcast recommendations convert to book sales. If they do, then Eason will continue sponsoring it.

    Podcasts are very different to broadcast. With Tubridy's programme on RTE1, he had ample time to promote his book choices to an audience of hundreds of thousands that was listening to the show or even just to RTE1 waiting for the news and weather. Think of it as a "push" model with the content being broadcast to the audience.

    With podcasts, it is a completely different model. It is a "pull" model where the audience has to make a decision to actively download and listen to or watch the podcast.

    Not all of Tubridy's audience are interested in his book choices. That cuts down the potential market size for his podcast. That changes his podcast from being a general interest podcast like the "Paths To Power" podcast (the most successful NKM podcast) to a niche podcast with a much smaller audience.

    Tubridy is no longer on RTE television (the LLS) or national Irish radio. That means that the obvious advertising routes are not available for the podcast. He's on Virgin Radio and the audience may not be interested in having to download or watch a podcast. The syndication deal with Q102 gives him some access to an Irish audience but the same argument applies.

    Book review podcasts seem to be popular but for every market leading podcast, there are thousands of also-rans with small audiences. On the Youtube figures, Tubridy's podcast seems to be one of these. Tubridy is no Joe Rogan.

    The only podcast episodes with significant audience figures are the ones with Vogue Williams and Doireann Garrihy. They are influencers in their own rights and have their own audiences. Those audiences seem to have "tuned in" to listen them rather than Tubridy. Eason might have sold a few more books as the result of their appearances.

    Tubridy is in a position of being formerly famous. He and NKM have to keep his media profile current in Ireland if he is to have a future in Irish broadcasting. But with so much younger competition coming up through the ranks and his former RTE audience staying with RTE's new programmes and presenters it is like Tubridy's RTE audience was never Tubridy's audience.

    Even a book show or Jazz/Lounge music show on Lyric FM seems out of reach for him at the moment.

    Regards…jmcc

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,817 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Great summary.

    He is quickly becoming yesterday's man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,960 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Becoming? He's into last week at this stage.

    I see threadbans don't appear to be applicable anymore either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It is coming up to the one year anniversary of the date when Tubridy was taken off RTE.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭yagan


    You just reminded jmcc, was in Eason's the other day and his annoying ad isn't playing anymore. Complaints perhaps?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,622 ✭✭✭Tork


    Tubs's London Diaries can be read for free on evoke.ie every Sunday - nobody has to buy the Irish Daily Mail if they don't want to. It's as good a newspaper as any for him to have a column in. The Sunday Times and the Business Post are paywalled and the Sindo is somewhat paywalled. Unless he wants to appear alongside reports about the Kinahans in the Sunday World there isn't anywhere else for him to go.

    One of his biggest problems now is that his platforms are largely online. He has an older listener base and it's hard to know how many of them know or want to know about online radio and podcasts. While most older people I know use smartphones these days, they don't see them as a way to access entertainment. For them, radio is the stations the FM radio in the kitchen picks up. There's no way many of them will bother to seek out Q102 or the podcast. They'll probably just listen to Oliver Callan or switch to the local radio station.

    Paths to Power is a completely different kettle of fish. It's worth seeking out if you've got an interest in politics and it's better than Matt Cooper's actual radio show. Ivan Yates is a better pundit than presenter and even if you don't like him, his opinions are worth hearing. Tubs's book podcast, on the other hand, offers nothing new to anybody. Aside from it being one of many book-related podcasts out there, interviews with his guests are ten-a-penny. If you've turned on the radio or TV at all over the past decade you'll have heard many interviews with these authors. Sometimes they'll come onto his podcast because they're trying to flog a book and are doing loads of interviews anyway. Tubs isn't good at getting the best out of his guests, so listeners are unlikely to hear anything new or interesting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Or the podcast and ad are not converting into book sales.

    Regards…jmcc



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