Enoch Burke is The Prisoner

we waste so much tax in this country but I have no problem with some of it being wasted on keeping him living in mountjoy. He seems to enjoy it and he’s knocking about outside a school.

I'm asking the question - Geuze suggested that the majority of the population agree with him on the substantive issue. I was asking which issue specifically Geuze thought this about. I can't imagine many will support Burke in anything...

One might indeed agree with EB on the substantive issue, depending of course on what his defindefinition of that is, although if it is what I think it is then I'll say no more as I may breach thread rules on this topic.

Since the founding of the state.

I only know this because it came up as recently as April this year in questions to the Minister of Justice.
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2024-04-17/100/

ARTICLE 13 - 6

6 The right of pardon and the power to commute or remit punishment imposed by any court exercising criminal jurisdiction are hereby vested in the President, but such power of commutation or remission may also be conferred by law on other authorities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category%3ARecipients_of_Irish_presidential_pardons

HHe Is jailed for civil contempt. Open to correction but this does not fall under criminal jurisdiction.

I agree with you both (above) that it's open to argument re Criminal Vs. Contempt but then again, the law does love a good argument/debate. It's one of the reasons some of us are following this thread. That and schadenfreude :)

We have had decades to fix this grey area in our justice system.

It has been highlighted and flagged by the Supreme Court and the Law Reform Commission. We didn't bother so now the courts find themselves in the unsavoury position of having someone's liberty removed without a trial for an indefinite period again.

This Muppet is in it for the long haul, 3-4-5 years time he will bring his case to the European Courts where he could actually win.

Judges are uneasy about denying bail for cases that can take years to get to court.

I said it at the start and I sill believe it, the school were left high and dry by the criminal justice system. This cretin should have been charged immediately with criminal trespass as the threshold was well exceeded.

If they had did the correct thing from the start we now wouldn't be dealing with absolute cretin wasting everyone's time, money and mental health with him trying to martyr himself to please and enrich his Mammy.

It could take the school years to shake off this clown and get on with it's normal functions.

If one good thing is to come from it, maybe eventually they will reform the laws around contempt.

When the school term resumes, It'll be interesting to see if other members of Enoch's family decide to picket outside Wilson's school to show their ongoing support of him on the issue of him [as he alleges] being obliged, as apart of his employment as a teacher there, to accept and go along with the wishes of at least one pupil there to be addressed by a self-chosen pronoun, instead of gallivanting around the countryside shocking the nations TD's and ministers, seeing how [according to Mrs Burke] the TD's and ministers are doing nothing about the judges behind the appalling vista of her son being jailed solely for standing up for his beliefs.

They must be terrified about her popping up out of the grey with her family and a camera in tow at any public event they are advertised to attend at, filling the media pages with more of her family's alternative lifestyle.

If some nut job like Peter Crasey happened to be President I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it.

Another one arrested in Mayo today

https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/member-of-burke-family-arrested-over-alleged-public-order-incident-in-mayo/a1719301557.html

Did Jemima interrupt a Covid briefing a few years ago and claim to be working for a fictional newspaper?