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7 seater woes

  • 16-06-2024 11:18PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49


    Hi all,

    My wife and I are currently looking for 7 seaters. We have 2 very young kids and another on the way so will have 3 in baby seats. We know there are alternatives in terms of fitting 3 car seats but given space is already at it's limits we'd like to get something bigger

    We've looked around and have narrowed it down to 4 cars. Would be looking at roughly a 2020 (4 Years old) so the car is still reasonably newish but has lost majority of it's depreciation. Would be looking at keeping the car for 3/4 years. I realise the below are all varying budgets, the X5 is probably on the too expensive side but wondering what peoples feedback would be?

    BMW X5 - Beautiful car but loses crazy value year over year even at 4 years old and looking at roughly 70k.

    VW Tiguan All.Space - In and around 40k so great budget but isn't as stylish as others.

    Mercedes GLB - I'm a little confused about this, beautiful car but seems on cheap side at roughly €44k…something I'm missing?

    Volvo XC90 - Again on the expensive side but seems to hold value well, roughly 60k but probably nicest interior on the list.
    LandRover Discovery - Incredible looking but everyone, including garages, seem to say they'll break your heart.

    Any feedback is most welcomed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭macchoille


    Wildcard : Ford S-Max, good handling, decent spec. Middle row has three independent seats and Rear 2 rows fold flat turning it into a van , I transported a flat pack ikea double day bed in mine.

    Get rid when it hits about 12 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭caze


    Agreed, If you want a genuine 7 seater, Smax is hard to beat. Go and try to fit 3 child seats in back of X5 or Tiguan then try again with Smax. Had one for 8 years when kids small and found it great. Only thing it lacks is prestige, but to be honest with 3 small kids that drops down the list.

    My sister got a kia Sorrento when her 3rd arrived , sold it after a year for a Smax, the seating options didn't work for her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭macchoille


    Another option is the galaxy (bigger) , would have better seats and legroom in the 3rd row. On the smax the 3rd row is really only suitable for kids, galaxy will take adults in all 7 seats but doesn’t look as nice or handles as well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,372 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/kia-sorento-2021/36954143

    Capturelkop.JPG

    Kia Sorento with a 7 year warranty is a wild card option



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,372 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Kia Sorento

    plug in hybrid, 50 km electric range, and that 7 year warranty

    Forget diesels.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭Tails142


    We got a VW Sharan, 4 kids. The last of them were built in 2019/2020 and Tiguan replaced them in the line up. Great car, very happy with the purchase, love the fact that you see models from the 00's on the road so you know they are reliable work horses.

    Was immaculate when we bought 3 years ago, 2019 reg. Kids have it destroyed inside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,761 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    To be fair the older ones are completely different cars. 1.9 TDI in the old one vs a 1.4 supercharged TSI in the newer ones. Most reliable VW engine ever made vs the least reliable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭Tails142


    I dunno, the 2019 I got is a 2 litre diesel so I guess it's one of the good ones. Had been looking at a Japanese import one that was a 3 litre petrol, glad I didn't opt for that!!



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    We've an SMAX.Bought in 2018 when we were in your position.Workhorse of a car, I'd buy another one.Great seat space at the back, great boot space, relatively high up to drive and a good all-rounder.

    My sister has a Volvo XC90.It is massive.Now she did buy brand new, about 18 months ago, so it is an electric.She is on her 8th(!!!) Set of tyres on the car.Any little tip or bump on a road and the tyres seem to just go.She was ready to return it this year, 12 months in, but problems arose with their other car so they have just kept going.She is driving the same roads she drove with previous cars, and no problems, so...the car must be the issue.Privately Volvo offered to take it back from her because it's been such a disaster and they have acknowledged that tyres are a problem on that particular model, but she would have to wait on a replacement so isn't in a position yet to do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,493 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I think the van types are way more practical than SUVs for the majority. Especially if they have sliding doors.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭csirl


    How about a VW Touran? 7 seater. Can fit 3 x child seats across the middle row. Boot big enough to carry a washing machine. Very easy car to drive. Shorter wheel base and wheels that turn in more makes it easier to park than most family cars (have also had a Ford and you notice the difference). Ultra reliable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,031 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I agree. But they've fallen out of fashion. I don't think there are any new models. All SUV and crossovers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,761 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    They never made a 3 litre Sharan. Maybe it was 2 litre petrol. The Jap ones are 1.4 petrol or 2.0 petrol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,493 ✭✭✭✭fits


    it was great fun trying to get twin babies out of cars in their car seats in some car parks. Especially if on your own.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Roadtoad


    another + for the Ford Galaxy.

    Four kids, the big adventure holidays in France, friends tagging along etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭csirl


    +1

    Also seems to be a trend of having massive wheels with wide flared out wheel arches........and then a tapered narrow/smaller cab!

    So you get the disadvange of a larger more ackward vehicle and the disadvantage of a smaller passenger space.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,518 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Skoda Kodiaq?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    had one of these, very practical and reliable, easy to drive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    We have an S-Max and a Skoda Kodiaq. The Skoda is a better drive. The S-Max does the heavy lifting. We have 3 kids. When we take the ferry to France with bikes and roof box - we use the S-Max.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,031 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Exactly this.

    What you really need 3 kids + friends + grandparents is the MPV square sided and van like. The nicer driving ones are perfect.

    We had Tourans, for years shorter than a Passat but like a TARDIS inside.

    They are mostly diesel these days. Which doesn't suit lots of short local journeys which many MPVs do.

    If I was doing it again I'd have a MPV as soon as I had one kid. Just so useful. Doubles as a van at the weekends for DIY.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭csirl


    Our diesel Touran is 10 years old, only 150k - short journeys, school runs etc hasnt done it any harm. Never failed a NCT. Got it when we had 3 young kids in child seats. Wife wont replace it even though the kids are older now - likes it too much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,031 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    We had two petrol then diesel. The diesel was a nightmare. Just unlucky maybe. I'd buy another tomorrow if it was manual and petrol. Or a PHEV or BEV. I think MPVs are extinct though unfortunately.



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    Dacia Jogger !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,579 ✭✭✭creedp


    The ID4 is the white knight of the MPV class. Will be interesting to see the 7 seater version



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Pauljmeh


    thank you everyone for the incredible feedback.

    We looked at the Smax, Santa Fe, Jogger, Kodiaq etc and although they’re beautiful vehicles we liked the VW All Space most from this bunch. They’re all roughly same price but thought VW was the nicest, apparently Kodiaq is the very same car under the hood

    Volvo and X5 were our favourites but found it hard to justify spending 60-70k on a 4 year old car unless resale value was incredible or reviews were above and beyond.

    The Mercedes GLB was one we came across but something doesn’t add up, it’s a 7 seater luxury brand yet it’s 30k cheaper than BMW equivalent?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,031 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    If its too good to be true, it usually a sign to walk away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Pauljmeh


    exactly our thoughts but I’ve tried to research it and can’t find anything alarming. It’s not one particular car, it seems to be the going rate for them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,857 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    I don't know your financial situation obviously, but I personally wouldn't be going near a marquee brand car as a seven seater with 2 young kids and a third on the way. With the best will in the world, the kids will make messes, break things and generally increase wear and tear in the vehicle. I'd be weary of buying brand new for the same reason, even if I had the money..

    Now obviously if money isn't an issue then perhaps sound.

    Have a grand scenic here that we got about 7 years ago, second hand. We have had multiple trips to France with bikes, it's helped us move house twice and it's up on 370k km at the point. It has given us a few wear and tear issues on top of regular service but nothing you wouldn't expect.

    Car would be worth feck all now so will continue with it as long as feasible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭eurokev


    The ultimate wildcard - a Nissan Serena.

    A glut have been imported by kearys and kylemore over the last year or so, from Japan, and they appear to be the perfect family car in my opinion.

    I have 4 kids myself 5 years of age and younger, and we just about get by for space with the smax that we have. We do have twins though so that makes it a bit more challenging.

    Was only talking to a guy at the local park in the last week or two who has a Serena. He also had 4 kids, a bit older, they were say between 4 and 8. He was kind enough to show me around the car and he couldn't speak highly enough of it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Pauljmeh


    We don’t have a budget really which is part of the problem. I’d prefer not to spend silly money as although it’s nice to have a lovely car, the novelty does wear off.

    Trying to weight up having a ‘luxery brand’ with the extra comfort with being practical and was hoping someone could convince me one way or another haha



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