Russia-Ukraine War

We also note that ''Ukrainian corruption'' is a favourite trope of the most rabid MAGA gang (they also like to add the 'child trafficking' trope they got from the Qtipper playbook). Nice to be in good company, eh? It occurs to me that if corruption is a good reason to invade a country, then Russia would be better off trying to invade South Africa. Or invading itself.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/1dh73h4/80_countries_have_signed_the_ukrainian_peace/

Aid to those countries should be restricted after their abstentions. It's a **** deal for the citizens but the govs are under russian influence

Reports of Vovchansk being liberated

Meh … the resolution/communiqué isn't all that great.

• Respect for territorial integrity (didn't count for much in 2014, nor in the ten years since …)
• Don't feck around with nukes and nukey things (duh!)
• Give back the kidnapped children (hardly a big deal for much of sub-saharan Africa, who are quite happy to send their children to anywhere north of the Med)

All-in-all, a great photo op for those who were there, but I don't think the communiqué amounts to much. Whatever Zelenskyy was able to get done behind the scenes will probably be/have been far more useful.

In occupied areas of Ukraine the Ruzzians are already manufacturing ''facts on the ground'' with a speed and efficiency that belies their incompetence in other areas and that puts the Israelis in the ha'penny place. Then again the Russians are old hands at this kind of thing. The Soviets brought the pitiless transfer of entire populations to new heights, but their Czarist predecessors were no slackers in that department either. These changes will cause endless trouble in these areas for decades or even centuries….unless the next rulers decide to reverse them with the same ruthlessness as the Russians showed in implementing them.

Your question was as follows:

In what way is it similar? 

I answered your question and you refused to read the answer and now are assuming the role of an interrogator? Anyway…

In answer to your questions.

I did a google on Putin's genocide blunder but couldn't find anything.

I found this speech:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/world/europe/putin-ukraine-speech.html

The purpose of this operation is to protect people who, for eight years now, have been facing humiliation and genocide perpetrated by the Kyiv regime.

He accused Ukraine of genocide.

On Bucha

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/hallmarks-genocide-russian-crimes-across-ukraine-ukrainian-prosecutor-says-2024-04-02/

Ukraine's top prosecutor said on Tuesday that Russian crimes across occupied Ukrainian territories, including the Bucha massacres, show a pattern of genocidal behaviour that should be tried domestically and ultimately by the International Criminal Court.

Ukraine's top prosecutor accused Russia of genocidal behaviour.

So it appears, they both accuse each other of genocide or genoicdal behaviour.

I'm not seeing either side as angelic. You seem to hold Ukraine in great regard and certainly on transparency international they score higher than russia.

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2023?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwmrqzBhAoEiwAXVpgoj1Sq9gEzLcBElKoU-IaxoYgGpJXhah0d-0EFQALeaftt4pEBMKmjxoCicwQAvD_BwE

But neither country scores high.

The Guardian described the Ukraine far right problem back in 2014

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis

That doesn't get talked about much anymore. The Israeli's weren't happy about it.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/kiev-renames-major-street-to-honor-russian-nazi-collaborator/

Make no mistake, if you were lauding Russia, I'd be pushing back against that too.

Anyway, I hope that answers your questions and gives you some context. You may read my previous reply now and hopefully your attitude, which I found a bit forceful, will improve a little.

Impressive how Ukraine improved given the reported corruption e.g.

https://time.com/6249941/ukraine-corruption-resignation-zelensky-russia/ but still, at 103rd and a score of 36, it's not great.

2014 - 2016 was the worst time but the OSCE reports prior to the war showed the increase in ceasefire violations

I have no primary experience but it would be great if a reputable source like the Irish Times went through the reports and explained what happened.

Anyway. It's late. Probably best staying away from this conversation. I'm not committed to either the Ukraine/ NATO or Russia side. Hopefully they'll stop sending people to die in this stupid war.

Who do you define as "they"?

As there is only one country sending people to die, which would put you firmly on the Ukraine/NATO side.

(Also amazing how much research you've pulled out given your previous JAQ'ing off stances).

I did a google on Putin's genocide blunder but couldn't find anything.

https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1636805712742318091

Here you go. Heres Lvova Belova(also a wanted criminal) and Putin in a snippet talking about it. There's tons more links I can provide (like a full interview with Belova where she gives detail about her actions). Be at peace, the ICC aren't going to simply add a representative of a whole country to their list without overwhelming evidence.

Here's a link to the official documentation about genocide:

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention%20on%20the%20Prevention%20and%20Punishment%20of%20the%20Crime%20of%20Genocide.pdf

Take note of Article 2(e):

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

See it's all very simple? No need for complications or both sides-ing anything. And unfortunately for you it gets even simpler than that. Because the Russian foreign affairs spokesperson didn't even deny it. The simply said they're not signatories to the Rome statute so it doesn't apply to them:

https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1636762843554144257

So it appears, they both accuse each other of genocide or genoicdal behaviour.

Who f***ing cares what Russia accuse Ukraine of? They have another very simple fact to content with.

Ukraine were not in control of Bucha at the time it occurred. Here:

https://deepstatemap.live/en?#10/50.7125/30.7494

Look at Bucha on the outskirts of Kiev and wind the time back to March 2022. See how Russia controlled the area? So unless you're suggesting that it's somehow plausible or likely that Ukraine would venture into Russian controlled Ukrainian territory to massacre their own people on the doorsteps of Kiev…… To what? Have something in their back pocket to blame Russia for? As though they needed that. Then you're engaging in brain falling out of head level conspiracy here.

Make no mistake, if you were lauding Russia, I'd be pushing back against that too.

Doubt.

Anyway, I hope that answers your questions and gives you some context. You may read my previous reply now and hopefully your attitude, which I found a bit forceful, will improve a little.

It answers nothing except confirming my already held suspicions about you. Rest assured you'll be joining my ignore list from now on. So you don't have to worry about my tone stifling your tender sensibilities. Bye.