Forgotten farmer scheme

Forgotten farmer
"Forgotten farmer is a term used to describe youngfarmers who lost out following the removal of youngfarmer supports (installation aid) due to cuts in public expenditure during the last recession.
They were then unable to qualify for young farmersupports introduced under CAP 2015, because, inmany cases, they had been farming for five years ormore."

Department of Agriculture analysis shows that approximately 3,500 farmers would meet the basic definition of a forgotten farmer.

No mention of payment rate as he is only hoping to get it in the 2025 budget. There is not a hope that any rate would be mentioned yet as it depends on what pot they get.

I think I am a forgotten farmer did green cert in 06/07 have herd number before idid green cert was supposed to get 15k instillation **** you brendan smith 🤬 . Ifa & Macra didn’t make much noise at the time either

I was on my honeymoon when installation aid and early retirement for my dad was pulled …huge blow at the time …I’ll be following this with interest

see the other thread @grangemac, found it eventually under expression of interest,

What if you only got a payment for 2 of the years as young farmer and missed the rest because you were did not qualify for any more.

I got fairly shafted imo and not eligible for this either as I availed of the Scottish derogation.....balls.

I couldn't get entitlements when I started mid 2000s because I rented the land off parents so they could avail of the farm retirement scheme at the time.....the problem was I paid them the going rate per acre at the time....to get or be eligible for entitlements at the time I would have had to rented it off them for zero or a nominal value per acre (say 1 euro)...the

Absolutely sickening, anyway eventually/further on down the line there was a thing called the Scottish derogation that allowed you to apply for entitlements in your own right....if you met the criteria...these entitlements started at zero year one and gradually crept their way up to the national average over 5 years I think...so nothing wonderful tbh but better than nothing...could be wrong but I think it was to allow people locked out from entitlements that were actively farming in 2013 into the system....

Anyway, let's just say the fairly pedestrian retirement income my parents got didn't come close to being a 10th of the money that was lost from not having entitlements/installation aid etcfrom the get go...I reckon the loss was in the 100ks region over the years...

And all due to paying a fair rate to my parents for renting land to get started...it seemed very wrong to me...had TDs submitted questions to dail, then minister etc all to no avail

Anyway I could see this coming years away, 5k wouldn't come close to the loss of future earnings, expansion etc it cost me.....

And the Scottish derogation shouldn't be used to lock people out given it didn't come near compensating for the "unintentional oversight"

It's a warning to lads, read the Ts and Cs of every and any scheme as manyntikes as you can, get good advice and don't be relying on dipstick solicitors with no specific knowledge of the area they blunder into fir a fee (that my parents thought they could trust) ...

Sure Maybe it was a valuable lesson in a way...I won't be taking any chances ever again