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EU Elections 2024 - Results

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Gonna be close, I'd imagine the odds are now slightly in Ni Mhurchu's favour.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,742 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Gildernew probably wanted to be an extra couple of thousands of votes ahead after those SF transfers. Seems very likely Mullooly will benefit more from Toibin votes than she will, so I'd say Mullooly is the clear favourite to take it at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,732 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    The other side of the argument is you get to policy based candidates off the list, rather than based on likability/ how many funerals they turn up to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭wassie


    Wow. Going to close in the South!!! Round 18 count completed.

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    Kelleher has been elected with a quota.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Steviemak7


    That's Mick gone. Grace will transfer to Cynthia. Billy's surplus will go to Cynthia too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,666 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Only 1200 behind, surely that 5th seat will go to Ni Mhurcu?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭wassie


    Why would we want to get rid of this voting system!

    Death by a 1000 cuts for the candidates!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Wallace is done, he's not getting the transfers

    Overall, these results are very positive for Ireland.

    Daly and Wallace removed from embarrassing us on the world stage. The two Green Party candidates no longer demanding that we destroy our living standards for dubious reasons.

    Hopefully the four people that take their place can reverse and repair some of the damage they've caused in the last 5 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭gral6


    Three pretty women will send Wallace into obscurity! I would not wish better myself!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,666 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I wouldn't be surprised to see him run in the next GE. It looks like he still has a lot of supporters in Wexford.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Not sure constituencies are fair because they can favour candidates.

    So say there was only one, the whole country, I bet proportionally Brid Smith and AOR would get a much lower percentage of the vote and Nial Boylan would have gotten more, for example. So I'm saying the progressive far left types wouldn't do as well nationally.

    They are not representing their constituency in Europe anyway in any real sense as they are supposed to be representing the whole country.

    So if you want to speed thing up I think we should ditch half the candidates and everyone has the same ballot paper. It would be more fair and I would have loved to have put Brid Smith below Justin Barret just for fun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,364 ✭✭✭Patser


    Yeah, you'd have to think that GP voters won't go for a builder. Ni Murchu only needed 3k off the last 2, got almost 5k from 1st set.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,364 ✭✭✭Patser


    Actually Kelleher has 5k surplus now to be redistributed. Ni Murchu outscored Wallace 3 to 1, on initial distribution so could pick up the 1,200 needed now although some will go to O'Sullivan as well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Steviemak7


    She'll be ahead of Mick when Kelleher has his 5k surplus distributed. So Mick will need more transfers from O'Sullivan than Ni Mhurchu gets. That will never happen. Green voters are not even going to put a number next to Mick.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Personally I think a list system for Europe, where having an individual representative is not really important, is absolutely fine. Though I have no particular problem with our system either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭yagan


    Remind me, is Kelleher's surplus counted now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭muzakfan


    Irish people are strange creatures imho. While personally I'm happy to see the looney left candidates eliminated a lot of the candidates put forward by the right, if not actual criminals, you certainly wouldn't leave your partner, child or pet alone in a room with them.

    But the strange part is that for the most part we seem to be ok with how things are headed? Tent city, housing crisis etc. At least by support of the same parties again that's the message we're sending.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,364 ✭✭✭Patser


    Yeah, if you look at Ni Murchu, O'Sullivan and Wallace transfers from Mullins, they are nearly 3:2:1 in ballance- so roughly 2,700, 1,800, 900 each from Kellehers 5,300. That'll put Ni Murchu ahead



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Steviemak7


    Yes, all votes are used. Surpluses are redistributed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Ultimately, if you peel it right back, most people couldn't care less about a few tents on the canal. Most people(who are home owners) don't care about the housing crisis. Let's call a spade a spade.

    Unemployment has never been as low, we are a nation who likes to give out regardless. If it's not the weather, it's a few tents, if it's not tents, it would be something else

    The boom just got boomier babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭yagan


    Grand, can't that surplus helping Putin's bitch much.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,500 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Presumably it's because the alternative don't offer an actual alternative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,596 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Only the votes that brought him over the quota are considered i.e. those from the last count. I assume thats what you mean but it could be interpreted that they examine all 100k+ ballots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭yagan


    My wife asked me a few weeks ago who were Independent Ireland, I sent a link about Michael Collins wanting to legalise prostitution. Her first words were "f*ckin Gammon". We had lived a few years in Brexit Britain were well used to that letchy type politics.

    Can't see them lasting is that's their version of being enlightened, taking the criminal offence out of sexual exploitation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Steviemak7




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,320 ✭✭✭MFPM


    In part yes, people don't fully see a viable alternative that's in part due to those putting forward alternatives and how viable they seem but the media play an important role in undermining the opposition too.

    But it's also the case as someone else said, unless your struggling for a house the housing crisis may not be a huge issue for you the same with health etc.

    The turn out in this election was far more from sections of society who are largely 'content' with things, the turn out in working class areas was quite slow hence the impact on SF.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,320 ✭✭✭MFPM


    There's no question she'll be ahead the key issue is how far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    II have done well in these elections but they'll need to coalesce into an actual party with a full set of policies now rather than just a bunch of individuals if they want to avoid the fate of most new parties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    I wouldn't be too sure about that. Why is it supposed his 1st pref vote came from Wexford? It's a huge constituency. I'd think the good people of Wexford know more about Mick and his shenanigans than most, the odd good bit and then the awful shyte & hypocrisy from the man.

    Main thing Mick had going for him is a big mop of hair and colourful shirts, makes him stand out on the posters and ballots etc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    His political career will be dead and buried alongside that of Daly



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