Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

What land type are you on ginger. Moisture seems to be the biggest problem here.

Eornagold doesn't feed well with grass. Pure poison for butterfat. Not enough fibre in the grass. Works well with silage.

Go with the brewers more versatile when you’re moving between grazing and silage in the shoulders and less costly than eornagold. Dm is around 24% I think in brewers and low 30s for eornagold, brewers and eornagold will spoil a similar amount so better to be spoiling less of the more cost effective feed. We pitted 100 tons of it two weeks ago for the shoulders and winter. We’ve had both over the years and only ever use brewers now haven’t had eornagold in several years.

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U can only so efficent soil should be maintained at index 3 alot of farms feeding little meal and not allowed spread p will soon be at index 1 its basic science alot of slurry being spread is very low in p it has to be imported to farm in meal or fert it just doesnt appear in slurry like magic

You are correct there, I see the slurry under the cows that were fed mediocre silage while dry, is only good for dirting the grass, compared to slurry from under the milking cows or dry cattle.

Even your man in the biogas plant video posted here lately, say he wants the slurry from a fattening unit as it has more energy.

It will definitely bring down soil fertility, ( that is the plan)

It probably requires a module, but could one of you give a brief description of how we may access this P?

When you do a soil test for p. It's in no way comprehensive. It's a rough estimate of what's reasonably available to plants. More accurate on some soils than others.

There's multiple pools of p. In organic matter, dissolved and rapidly available p, p tied up with calcium, iron, aluminium etc. p on clay particles.

Keeping p in the more easily accessible pools and having the activity in the soil to actively be taking p from the more difficult to access pools.

Clovers and soil fungi are much more effective at accessing p that isn't readily available to grass especially where it binds to calcium.

Humic acid provides food for fungi and also soaks up p and stops it getting locked up in difficult to access forms. It also gives something for aluminium and iron to bind to other than p

Having a mixture of grass species boosts root health and selects for more favourable strains of soil microbes.

Manure has more of a positive effect than slurry for equal amounts of p applied due to higher biological activity and a wide variety of organic acids and other chemicals that help to add to the pool of available p as they offer somewhere for soil p to be held temporarily and so not locked up.

Not having the right pH means aluminium and iron are more soluble and lock up p.

This has all been explained on here over the last few years. Yet ye were only ridiculing the messenger. Running 4.5 on the milking platform here.

Who ridiculed you? I have never used them but I never ridiculed anyone for their ideas and don't remember anyone else doing it either.