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Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,934 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The councillor praised the work of the FRC and other organisations for the success of the integration. That was what I meant when I spoke about their integration.

    I NEVER repeat NEVER claimed the councillor said it was because of communication.

    Not on this page or any other.

    I claimed part of the reason was communication. Me, nobody else was quoted and no lies were told.

    End of unless you can quote me claiming the councillor said it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,707 ✭✭✭blackwhite



    The only reason for successful integration you mentioned was communication - you never made any mention of the FRC or any other bodies as a reason. Stop lying - the post has been quoted repeatedly at this stage.

    You then claimed the councillor backed you up when he did nothing of the sort.

    You used love labelling anyone who disagreed with you RE the troubles a “revisionist” - yet here you are trying to revise your posting history from the past 24 hours. And we all know how honest you always are when it comes to your posting history



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,934 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    In my original post I mentioned two reasons that is why I used ‘and’.

    You cannot find me claiming the councillor said it was ‘down’ to communication and are trying to save face rather than admitting you got the wrong end of the stick.
    Done with you on this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,707 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    You mentioned one reason.

    “Integration” isn’t a reason for how they were successfully integrated - it’s like trying to attribute Dublin’s recent success in football to “being succesful”. It’s piss-poor bad faith posting to claim otherwise - but that’s par for the course from you. Post something then claim it means something completely different to what you actually posted when called out.


    If you’re incapable of being honest (yet again) then it’s just as well that you do drop it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,934 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Sorry this is intolerable, called a liar AGAIN.

    I mentioned two.
    Are you incapable of understanding what an ‘and’ is used for?

    I said it was due to how they were integrated AND the communication. I further added the link from the FRC confirming the 50% figure (I was called a liar over that) about how they were integrated and when challenged and called a liar too by Mark posted the article from the councillor because it had the CSO 30% figure on it. Never saw Mark since. Peas in a pod.

    I’m not the one having to dig up all kinds of stuff to throw along with my toys to muddy the waters.

    Calm down re-read the posts. If I made a claim that the councillor said it was ‘down’ to communication, post it. .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,707 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    You keep asking me to back up something I didn’t say - you claimed the councillor’s comments backed you up, full stop.

    You gave one reason - communication - and one line of bluster that they were successfully integrated because they were integrated successfully doesn’t say anything or give any reason. If you’re incapable of realising that - or you think the word “and” magically invents words that you never typed then that’s your problem. But again - it’s the usual aggressive attacks and lies because you want to claim that you said something different to what you actually typed out.


    Lies and bluster, time and again. All to shill the SF agenda of SF/IRA good, Government bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,934 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Here is what the councillor said that tallued with my claim about their integration.

    'The Sinn Féin councillor praised the work already done by everyone in the Clones/Ballybay area from the Family Resource Centre to the Tidy Towns committee for including the people from some 20 foreign countries who have moved there.'

    "They've settled in very well in most cases. There's been a fair bit of integration that has been done and it's something that needs to be worked at; integration doesn't happen on its own and needs resources and leadership. And I'm very proud of the town here,"

    I had posted the article on how the FRC ‘integrated’ these people BEFORE I posted the councillor one, to show what I meant. The councillor also covers the work of the FRC and other groups.

    I ALSO said that the fact ‘people were kept informed’ helped. I NEVER claimed the councillor said that.

    I mentioned several reasons not just ‘one’.

    I have quoted the post, the sequence of the posts and still you claim I gave one reason. And I am the liar, again.
    Bewildering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,046 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Why would you automatically assume that asylum seekers who are fully legally entitled to be here too while their claims are processed are here to ride our hospitality rather than work?

    They're not allowed work are they not? If I was an employer I would be far more inclined to employ someone who's travelled thousands of miles to find it. People who protest against immigration are in the main wasters who have no interest in working themselves, no problem protesting any day of the week or rioting on a Thursday night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭mattser


    Nothing else to do obviously. Heaven forbid they'd do a days work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,929 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Early tallies suggest that SF are going to finish below their 2020 GE result for overall vote.

    In fact some predictions are that its going to be a very bad day for SF overall. Will still finish above their 2019 LE vote but if they want to be leading the next government, they need to go to the drawing board.



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  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    "Gavan Reilly also reporting that a large proportion of the votes in one Tallaght box were spoilt, with people ticking the boxes rather than adding numbers for their preference."

    FG/FF have nothing to worry about. SF supporters are too stupid to vote properly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,929 ✭✭✭✭markodaly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,046 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Also looking like running extra candidates has split their vote badly, with transfers going everywhere rather than along party lines.

    Can't see them running extra candidates in a GE right now for fear of the same result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    For all the abuse the incompetent online supporters have dished out to Green supporters online over the years that is some disaster for SF.

    Been an incompetent party and getting another kicking in a election is one thing

    BUT

    losing to the Greens is another, oh it is hilarious



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Sinn Fein, based on a number of videos online, shipping bus loads of asylum seekers to the voting boots, hard to verify as online but the reactions online are not positive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭mattser


    The usual few anti government mouths conspicuous by their absence here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,934 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,934 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Quite well aware of that thanks. Just posting what I saw online.

    So do you think it's possible the ones CloClo says he saw are bogus too?

    Clo loves dumping this stuff and then running when asked anything about them

    Is Clo in fact, trying to 'influence' with unsubstantiated comments?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Didn't think you would sink so low as to use an account like that to defend SF but here we are. Enjoy your Saturday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,934 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I didn't defend SF.

    I posted it to show that there are other videos out there.

    Funny, you seem convinced SF are guilty just because Clo said they are.

    Time to hold up a mirror maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 514 ✭✭✭myfreespirit


    Posting that link demonstrates very, very poor judgement on your part. Such is your apparent obsession with blackening 'FFG', as you insist on calling the current coalition government, that you use tawdry disinformation to try and make your point.

    You have zero credibility on this particular point, which makes me at least doubt anything you post.

    Shame on you for spreading suspected Russian disinformation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,399 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    2019 elections were also terrible, then 2020 they had the highest voting percentage. Things change fast in politics to be fair

    Mayoral election in Limerick looks to be favouring Helen O Donnell, she's independent but wife of the late Tom O Donnell, former FG MEP. Transfers from Daniel Butler (the official FG candidate) may push her over the line. Seems the government's record on health and the Warzone that is UHL has had no effect down there sadly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,934 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shame on you for spreading suspected Russian disinformation.

    Is it not a FG election vehicle bringing Ukrainians to vote?

    Are you saying the Russians faked a FG vehicle bussing people to the election?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Quick look at this 😂

    F**k me but it a tired old attempt at whataboutery

    I won't say anything about the "account" you shared, strange you always have a link to these types of accounts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭pureza




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,934 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Where are your links Clo?

    Or were you spreading dis-information?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Mary Lou was nearly shown the door after the local elections in 2019, but then agan when you go into DCC as the main party and promise houses and then end up 5 years later with less units what do SF expect?

    Hopefully the people of Dublin don't forget how corrupt Sinn Fein was during the time it led DCC.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,934 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    So it's ok to insinuate something and walk away = Clo
    But not ok to say you saw two videos online and post a link to one of them to prove that you actually saw it?

    Ok Pureza, you are making absolute sense again.



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