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Russia-Ukraine War

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Gazprom increased its gas supply to Europe by 39%.


    And Russia paid Ukraine 800 million euros to help transport it through to Europe up until May this year.

    The mind boggles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,367 ✭✭✭paul71




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Is it too much to ask that people fact check information that they put out for public consumption? Especially this close to the elections, with the number of fringe lunatics campaigning on populist issues. You're either certain of something having done you're research, or you're not. It's dangerous… then just a couple of pages back you have the same type of poster trying to shame and ridicule others who've questioned the veracity of casualty figures bandied about online over the past 18 months. "Accept the random links I post online and don't ask questions or I'll out you as a rUzZIaN". No wonder the right wingers are making hay these days… the Lefty Cheerleaders just continually shoot themselves in the foot while the centrists stand there with their hands in their pockets waiting to see which way the wind will blow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,421 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Rremember to include Sinn Féin's Chris McManus in that block.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,367 ✭✭✭paul71


    Ok I have gone through the entire voting history. Flanagan only voted on 1 issue in line with Wallace and Daly which I find contrary to the interests of Ukraine.

    You identified migration votes as issues of concern. They are completely separate to the Russian invasion of Ukraine and actually I find myself in agreement with his opinion. I happen to believe Europe does not have an immigration problem, the problem Europe has is Racism towards immigrants. I think you and I will disagree on that but it is nothing to do with Ukraine and Russia.

    Also the Green party, or least the Irish members of the Green party have not in any way shown lack of support to Ukraine.

    I have concluded that you are trying to shoehorn your grievances with other unrelated policies into an agenda to which it does not fit.

    You may not like Flanagan or the Greens, that's fine, but you have in my opinion deliberately and disingenuously shoe-horned them into a group with Wallace and Daly, and they do not fit there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,536 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Thanks for checking that out… will reflect in my voting prefs Friday!

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    Ming did vote against motions such as this one which help that Russian criminal regime and for that he deserves all the criticism he deserves

    Is he as bad as Mick and Clare? No

    Has he helped Putin’s regime? Yes

    He could have abstained or not show up like he done for a good chunk of his 10 years in Brussels but he didn’t



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,536 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Thanks, at the moment on the grounds of voting preference down the ballot so that Clare Daly doesn't get re-elected \ better views on Ukraine than her, FF \ FG \ Greens and Labour are ahead.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭8mv


    Thanks Zero - a very helpful exercise. A good way to learn the candidates stance on issues. A surprising independent emerged top of my list and I would normally ignore independent candidates. Another surprise was that an independent candidate finished bottom of my list and it wasn't Mick Wallace! ( although he didn't do too well either)Party candidates threw up no great surprises.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Putin throwing his toys out of the pram today and saying he might supply weapons to countries who can hit western targets.

    He’s rattled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    This Senator got his job purely based on the fact that he was the coach of a popular college football team in Alabama.

    He's already holding up hundreds of military appointments on a solo run over the military offering help to women who need to travel outside of state to get abortions after the ending of Roe v Wade

    Now this…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭dasdog


    From St Petersburg today. The last tranche of weapons seems to have hit a nerve. No mention of denazification.

    Putin: If Trump is elected, US could put focus on it's own interest
    • There could be changes in US policy over Ukraine and Russia if US starts to focus on its own interests.

    He does say that it's "hard to tell" if there will be changes should Trump gets elected, but you get the feeling he is hoping his old buddy wins.

    Putin adds:

    • We are not threatening anybody
    • No one in the West wants to recall that war in Ukraine started from state coup in Ukraine
    • United States provoked the coup in Ukraine, and after that Crimean people chose to leave Ukraine
    • Russia tried to solve the crisis by peaceful means after the coup.
    • Ukraine used weapons against peaceful citizens in eastern Ukraine.
    • West lied to Russia over Minsk Accord
    • we didn't attack we defended.
    • On Western weapons supplied to Ukraine and says those who supply weapons also directed the weapons, it's very dangerous step.
    • German tanks in Ukraine were a moral shock for Russia.
    • Western Germany was not a sovereign state after World War II.
    • If German missiles attack Russia, this will destroy relations between Russia and Germany
    • I understand that Germany is dependent on United states.
    • We still spoil gas to Europe via Ukraine.
    • We also supply gas to Europe via Turkstream.
    • Why Germany does not want to receive gas the one remaining leg up board straight
    • Warns of consequences for Europe from expensive energy.
    • It's important to keep up momentum for Russia's economic growth
    • Weston flicks more harm for itself then Russia
    • Russia's losses are way below Ukraine sources
    • Ukraine losses are around 50,000 servicemen a month, both killed and wounded


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭highpitcheric


    'West inflicts more harm for itself then Russia'.

    Mmmm no, i dont think so.

    And even if true, the collective west could do so for far far longer, long beyond the point of Russian collapse.

    Its like if Andre the giant was in a drinking contest with tyrion lannister.

    Tyrion looks up and says, 'im only drinking half glasses, while youre drinking pints'.

    Bailey had a borderline personality" based on "narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity with an intolerance to frustration and a great need for recognition".

    • Psychiatrist Jean Michel Masson and psychologist Katy Lorenzo-Regreny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,996 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/04/nato-sea-power-cui-russian-submarines-ireland-eu/

    It’s embarrassing that we don’t bother to defend ourselves, just close our eyes and ears.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,330 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Putin is imprisoning anyone connected to Alexi Navalny. So not only was he poisoned, imprisoned then left to die in a freezing courtyard in prison. But now all those connected to him are looking to have the same fate.

    In Berlin, germans and ex pat russians defied the will of Putin in going to a Navalny memorial concert. Putin is imprisoning anyone in or connected to FBK.

    In Moscow residents laid gifts at the grave of Navalny.

    Putin feels threatened by the followers of what he's made a martyr.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,430 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,593 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Thats pretty outrageous, who's buying it? Those countries should be exposed as actively supporting Russia, there is no excuse…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭phester28


    The ship successfully intercepted the Drone before going into stealth mode and is now off the coast of Donegal (reports are it was only a Tug)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,430 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Think we will all need to manage our expectations here

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    Hungary and Austria and transit onto balkans


    That headline is highly misleading tho as it’s an increase from next to nothing to next to nothing compared to overall daily European usage (went from 3% to looks like about 3.3% of overall European imports)

    This interactive report from recently shows the real picture

    here is the real picture

    IMG_5022.jpeg IMG_5024.jpeg IMG_5025.jpeg IMG_5026.jpeg IMG_5027.jpeg

    the misleading headlines are about that slight uptick you see in the Ukraine transit figure there for which Russia is still (incredibly) having to pay and is paying Ukraine for the privilege which works out I think at 800m per year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,430 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Actually, I think it was the only boat they could find lol

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,430 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,444 ✭✭✭zv2


    "in Kemerovo an ordinary tram showed how neglected the infrastructure is, and how dangerous it is for each of us."

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    Can we stop for a moment and appreciate Putin sending 40,000 men to take Kharkiv 20 miles down road from Belgorod and completely failed despite Ukrainians at the time being not able to strike this gathering group



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Another refinery hit. Damage looks enormous. But Russia should be able to repair this in a few weeks easily right? Bit pointless Ukraine even bothering with this? Right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Yep. He's worried more of his 'Dachas' will burn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I find it more bizarre Russia and Ukraine are exchanging money and services while ah the same time launching missiles at each other on a daily basis.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab




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