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Gazprom increased its gas supply to Europe by 39%.
And Russia paid Ukraine 800 million euros to help transport it through to Europe up until May this year.
The mind boggles.
I noticed that too.
Is it too much to ask that people fact check information that they put out for public consumption? Especially this close to the elections, with the number of fringe lunatics campaigning on populist issues. You're either certain of something having done you're research, or you're not. It's dangerous… then just a couple of pages back you have the same type of poster trying to shame and ridicule others who've questioned the veracity of casualty figures bandied about online over the past 18 months. "Accept the random links I post online and don't ask questions or I'll out you as a rUzZIaN". No wonder the right wingers are making hay these days… the Lefty Cheerleaders just continually shoot themselves in the foot while the centrists stand there with their hands in their pockets waiting to see which way the wind will blow.
Rremember to include Sinn Féin's Chris McManus in that block.
Ok I have gone through the entire voting history. Flanagan only voted on 1 issue in line with Wallace and Daly which I find contrary to the interests of Ukraine.
You identified migration votes as issues of concern. They are completely separate to the Russian invasion of Ukraine and actually I find myself in agreement with his opinion. I happen to believe Europe does not have an immigration problem, the problem Europe has is Racism towards immigrants. I think you and I will disagree on that but it is nothing to do with Ukraine and Russia.
Also the Green party, or least the Irish members of the Green party have not in any way shown lack of support to Ukraine.
I have concluded that you are trying to shoehorn your grievances with other unrelated policies into an agenda to which it does not fit.
You may not like Flanagan or the Greens, that's fine, but you have in my opinion deliberately and disingenuously shoe-horned them into a group with Wallace and Daly, and they do not fit there.
Thanks for checking that out… will reflect in my voting prefs Friday!
Ming did vote against motions such as this one which help that Russian criminal regime and for that he deserves all the criticism he deserves
Is he as bad as Mick and Clare? No
Has he helped Putin’s regime? Yes
He could have abstained or not show up like he done for a good chunk of his 10 years in Brussels but he didn’t
see here first
Thanks, at the moment on the grounds of voting preference down the ballot so that Clare Daly doesn't get re-elected \ better views on Ukraine than her, FF \ FG \ Greens and Labour are ahead.
Thanks Zero - a very helpful exercise. A good way to learn the candidates stance on issues. A surprising independent emerged top of my list and I would normally ignore independent candidates. Another surprise was that an independent candidate finished bottom of my list and it wasn't Mick Wallace! ( although he didn't do too well either)Party candidates threw up no great surprises.
Putin throwing his toys out of the pram today and saying he might supply weapons to countries who can hit western targets.
He’s rattled.
This Senator got his job purely based on the fact that he was the coach of a popular college football team in Alabama.
He's already holding up hundreds of military appointments on a solo run over the military offering help to women who need to travel outside of state to get abortions after the ending of Roe v Wade
Now this…
From St Petersburg today. The last tranche of weapons seems to have hit a nerve. No mention of denazification.
He does say that it's "hard to tell" if there will be changes should Trump gets elected, but you get the feeling he is hoping his old buddy wins.
Putin adds:
'West inflicts more harm for itself then Russia'.
Mmmm no, i dont think so.
And even if true, the collective west could do so for far far longer, long beyond the point of Russian collapse.
Its like if Andre the giant was in a drinking contest with tyrion lannister.
Tyrion looks up and says, 'im only drinking half glasses, while youre drinking pints'.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/04/nato-sea-power-cui-russian-submarines-ireland-eu/
It’s embarrassing that we don’t bother to defend ourselves, just close our eyes and ears.
Putin is imprisoning anyone connected to Alexi Navalny. So not only was he poisoned, imprisoned then left to die in a freezing courtyard in prison. But now all those connected to him are looking to have the same fate.
In Berlin, germans and ex pat russians defied the will of Putin in going to a Navalny memorial concert. Putin is imprisoning anyone in or connected to FBK.
In Moscow residents laid gifts at the grave of Navalny.
Putin feels threatened by the followers of what he's made a martyr.
Another one
The ship says it's fine.
Thats pretty outrageous, who's buying it? Those countries should be exposed as actively supporting Russia, there is no excuse…
The ship successfully intercepted the Drone before going into stealth mode and is now off the coast of Donegal (reports are it was only a Tug)
Think we will all need to manage our expectations here
Hungary and Austria and transit onto balkans
That headline is highly misleading tho as it’s an increase from next to nothing to next to nothing compared to overall daily European usage (went from 3% to looks like about 3.3% of overall European imports)
This interactive report from recently shows the real picture
here is the real picture
the misleading headlines are about that slight uptick you see in the Ukraine transit figure there for which Russia is still (incredibly) having to pay and is paying Ukraine for the privilege which works out I think at 800m per year
Actually, I think it was the only boat they could find lol
More good news
"in Kemerovo an ordinary tram showed how neglected the infrastructure is, and how dangerous it is for each of us."
Can we stop for a moment and appreciate Putin sending 40,000 men to take Kharkiv 20 miles down road from Belgorod and completely failed despite Ukrainians at the time being not able to strike this gathering group
Another refinery hit. Damage looks enormous. But Russia should be able to repair this in a few weeks easily right? Bit pointless Ukraine even bothering with this? Right?
Yep. He's worried more of his 'Dachas' will burn.
I find it more bizarre Russia and Ukraine are exchanging money and services while ah the same time launching missiles at each other on a daily basis.
Right!