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Israel/Palestine Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,868 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    The "most moral army in the world" at it once more I see

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    The truth may be inconvenient for some, but it is the truth nonetheless. If it makes it more palatable, they can keep their heads in the sand and remain in denial. Findings of genocide are on their way. It will take a few years but they will come.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,868 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    This is an account I follow that tracks Op Sec for the Ukrainian war. They've been viewing footage of the aftermath of this strike.



  • Posts: 502 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    "… And their (IDF) reputation for rape and sexual assault is unparalleled in the modern world..." That statement of yours is so very far from the truth as to be pitiable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    Absolutely horrific scenes coming out of Gaza tonight. Israel is an evil terrorist state.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,452 ✭✭✭blackcard


    It doesn't like like the 'precision strike' that the IDF are claiming



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,717 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Given that this atrocity happened 'after' the ICC and ICJ decisions, the regime seems hellbent on confirming it is a pariah state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Those blindly defending Israel will follow the usual path:

    It wasn't the IDF, it was HAMAS, possibly a failed rocket.

    Ok, so It was the IDF but it was HAMAS fighters, not civilians.

    Ok, It was civilians, but there was a single suspected HAMAS fighter in the crowd.

    Ok, it was all women and children were killed, but there was HAMAS under the camp in a tunnel, perhaps a command centre.

    And so on and on.

    It has to be a hard task to constantly defend war crimes and genocide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,717 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The amount of psychopaths commenting on this atrocity on social media with Israel flags in their bios. You'd wonder what it is about the Israeli state that attracts the support of every full blown lunatic in the western world.

    Edit: I strongly suspect racism is a major factor in all this. Every racist, bigot and white supremacist in the West is on board the Israel train.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    I am utterly horrified at what's happening in Rafah tonight. There are no words for this monstrosity. Israel are beyond evil.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭REDBULL68


    Very convenient this Hamas rocket attack from Gaza (that hit nothing) and now the Israel attack on the dangerous tents housing people that Israel told them to erect in a safe zone ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,833 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    It certainly doesn't.

    "The IDF said it had targeted Hamas militants with precision weapons.

    Hamas-run authorities said 35 people had been killed and dozens injured at a camp
    for displaced Palestinians north-west of Rafah, away from recent
    military operations in a designated humanitarian safe zone.

    It said women and children are among the dead.

    The death toll was likely to rise as search and rescue efforts continued in
    Rafah’s Tal al-Sultan neighbourhood about 2 km (1.2 miles) north-west
    of the city centre, a Palestinian Red Crescent Society spokesperson
    quoted by the Associated Press news agency said. "

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0kkqkngnedo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    The filthiest regime on the planet imo supported by the Biden Whitehouse with weapons and equipment to enable this genocide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,653 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    So now racism has meaning again?

    That like anti semitism was a phrase that had "lost all meaning" when it suited.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,698 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Such an appalling attack. Was it in retaliation for the rockets aimed at Tel Aviv?

    Deliberately murdering women and children in the most painful way imaginable as a response to Hamas causing inconvenience to Israel. That's about what we've come to expect

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭This is it


    ICJ say Israel must stop the offensive immediately. They don't, so what now?



  • Posts: 344 ✭✭ Salma Hallowed Bifocal


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-69052857

    so much disturbing pieces of information in this article, and almost identical to how the Israeli government run their military.

    • revenge is justified no matter how many multiples of casulties
    • Innocent victims don’t count
    • Revenge must be in the form of multiples of deaths and property destruction
    • Our revenge / ancient Jewish doctrine overrules all laws and moral standards
    • we can be selective about adherence of our own sabbath if we have a better chance of killing the enemy
    • We will be protected by the Israeli justice system
    • Bully all Jews to obey the movement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,698 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,248 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    stop arming the filthy animals would be a start



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Aid groups react to strike of Rafah

    Aid groups say they are “horrified” by an Israeli strike on tents housing displaced people in the southern city of Rafah that has left at least 35 people dead.

    Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) said dozens of dead and injured people were brought to a trauma stabilisation supported by the group.

    The aid group said in a post on X:

    We are horrified by this deadly event which shows once again that nowhere is safe.

    Israel orders Spain to stop consular services for Palestinians from 1 June

    Israel’s foreign ministry said it had told the Spanish consulate in Jerusalem to stop offering consular services to Palestinians from 1 June over Madrid’s recognition of a Palestinian state.

    The ministry said that Spain’s consulate in Jerusalem is “authorised to provide consular services to residents of the consular district of Jerusalem only, and is not authorised to provide services or perform consular activity vis-a-vis residents of the Palestinian Authority”.

    Israel’s foreign minister, Israel Katz, said in a separate statement that “today, I implemented preliminary punitive measures against the Spanish consulate in Jerusalem following the Spanish government’s recognition of a Palestinian state”.

    “We will not put up with harming Israel’s sovereignty and security.”

    “The prosecutor of the court has been strongly intimidated and accused of antisemitism, as always, that everyone does something that the Netanyahu government doesn’t like,” Borrell said.

    “I think that the accusation of antisemitism against the prosecutor of the international criminal court is completely not acceptable.”

    We are outraged and heartbroken by the recent attacks in West Rafah, where Israeli fighter jets launched eight missiles at makeshift shelters housing internally displaced persons (IDPs) next to Unrwa warehouses stocking vital aid.

    These shelters were supposed to be safe havens for innocent civilians, yet they became targets of brutal violence. Children, women, and men are being burned alive under their tents and shelters.

    Israeli airstrikes that killed 44 Palestinian civilians evidence of war crime - Amnesty International

    The international criminal court should investigate as war crimes three Israeli airstrikes that killed 44 Palestinian civilians, including 32 children, in the Gaza Strip last month, Amnesty International has said.

    “The cases documented here illustrate a clear pattern of attacks over the past seven months in which the Israeli military has flouted international law, killing Palestinian civilians with total impunity and displaying a callous disregard for human lives.”

    That's just a glance at what's happening today.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    I wonder if anyone here thought they'd ever go against Amnesty International, Doctors without Borders, the ICC, and the ICJ in the space of a week, while supporting a country that threatens severe consequences against Ireland.

    It's a fast and steady descent into depravity and an inhuman lack of empathy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,698 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I didn't know Hamas were so powerful that they controlled every single humanitarian relief organisation in the world

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,248 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    wait till you find out about all the sickos Hamas have in Hollywood and politics. their rotten tentacles everywhere



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    I'd imagine so (seems like it anyway, with the timing), I don't think Hamas had managed to launch any rockets for a while. It is embarrassing for Netanyahu.

    So the mighty IDF has to be sent into action to hit back against the Hamas, and burn a few refugees in their tents (oh well, they were probably all "Hamas" anyway).

    It is all so very like that other war that seems a bit off the headlines, where you have another fragile warlord "leader" who lashes out murderously when things don't go to plan and he feels personally slighted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,653 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Surely sending support and troops in to defend Hamas and teach the Israeli's a lesson?

    People love comparing Israel to Nazi's and we know what was needed to defeat the Nazi's so same again?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,387 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I think they would more be sent in to protect civilians in Gaza to teach Israel a lesson



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,698 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Dont be ridiculous

    The last thing the Palestinians need, or anyone else for that matter, is an escalation in violence.

    An immediate halt to the Israeli bombardments, an immediate withdrawal of all forces from Gaza and the opening of all borders to all humanitarian aid to provide the crucial medical, shelter and food supplies to the refugees are what is required.

    The consequences for the IDF military and political leadership should be severe, but conducted within the legal and political arena, not more sensless murder

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,868 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Remarks like this just give easy ammunition to bad faith posters who wish to scream "Antisemitism!" in order to deflect from the IDF's genocidal war crimes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,097 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Yes. You're right it has, because to many it now means violence and prejudice against Jews only. You obviously are highlighting this due to recent violence by Jewish settlers against Arabs in the West Bank to remind people it refers to Arabs too and that anyone who seeks to excuse or minimise it is likely anti semitic. Well done on reminding people of this and your recent recognition that Israel lost the run of itself over Ireland recognising the state of Palestine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,097 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    No, to point out that in fact, there is antisemitism on this thread, on a depressingly regular basis. That particular OP I have on ignore because it spouts antisemitic crap all the time, but thanks for the quote, it's a good reminder of the flotsam and jetsam that show up here.



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