Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Roderic has dramatically reduced the amount of tourists that can visit due to his policy of filling hotels up and down the country with AS and IPAs.

If only he could come up with a plan to similarly reduce the numbers of bogus AS/IPAs arriving.

It's a completely irrelevant point. Illegal Irish immigration into the US and Australia is their problem. They can deport or do what they like. Its nothing to do what is going on here in Ireland. They can implement their imigrantation any way they like.

If anything I would have way less sympathy for an Irish person doing that has way more options then people from other countries. I don't care about what a random Irish person that I don't know does, or something from 1840. It's irrelevant.

Yes, I had to get Garda vetting for my job. I take “unvetted” in the context of asylum seekers to be a catch-all term for “we don’t know who these people are”, which is quite correct for a very significant number of them, and that is quite worrying.

Only this week there was a case where an asylum seeker only here two months randomly attacked a women who’d just gotten off the Luas and was walking home. He arrived here with no documents so authorities are unsure as to his real identity, or criminal history, etc.

Who coincidentally is up for European election ...

EP tents come to mind .

Well ya can be sure if there not working off the books. They'd be living on the street otherwise but at least theyre working not looking for handouts and houses. I still dont agree with it. And yes its that countries problem to sort out and if a deportation order is given. Ireland will take them back.

There are however high-profile criminals living abroad.

In general, though, Irish people (whether criminals or not) don't tend to destroy their documents and seek asylum in other countries (it is not feasible), so the analogy doesn't apply.

I'm just responding to this in case someone believes the above misinformation

I was threatened with a stabbing in front of family members a few years back by a well known drug dealer/ criminal.

lazy and stupid and unmotivated - these words in no way describe the person with whom I had the altercation. The person came from a difficult background and i have some sympathy for him but still reported the incident to the Gardai (nothing happened). Sadly, the person is now a major drug dealer. Maybe if the Gardai had acted he could have been diverted to another path.

If you approach a criminal with the mindset 'lazy and stupid and unmotivated', you might be in for a shock. I'd advise people to disregard this misinformation from @Strazdas

I agree but in this situation they don't have a choice .

The problem , yet again is indecision and poor handling by the government , with one party speaking out against another government party .

Whether by ignorance or not it is hypocrisy and a shambles .

Again, you are just wrong.

“landlord” means the person for the time being entitled to receive (otherwise than as agent for another person) the rent paid in respect of premises by the tenant thereof.

The landlord is the owner of the property being used for direct provision. The tenant is the state. There is no landlord/tenant relationship between individual IP applicants and the state.

Great old ding dong 'debate' on This Week at one o'clock earlier. Niall Boylan was taking any crap and got stuck in, landing real blows, making sense and leaving the others in his wake. Aodhán by contrast was like a choirboy. Clare Daly looks to be in deep doo daa, which I suppose is what happens when you lie down with snakes.

I fully agree with the election sentiment.

I'm a little bit suspicious of the whole report of 50 ASs being turfed back to the UK if I'm being honest -

RTE: In the past week 50 people were detected entering the State without the proper visas or documents during garda immigration checks along the border.

The checks were carried out over four days since last Monday, 20 May.

Gardaí said that people found to have entered Ireland illegally and who were refused "leave to land", were returned to the United Kingdom.

Jaysus that was easy wasn't it - So a lad on a bus or train is pulled up by a Guard and asked who he is - The lad says 'I wish to claim international protection in the ROI' and they can just put him on a ferry and wave at him from the pier?

How come the likes of Nick 'the grift' Henderson aren't doing their nut about this abuse of our obligations? Did Nick ring the Govt with a 'wtf' question about this?

I'm smelling a massive rat with this report - When Nick did call the Govt was he told 'Don't worry Nick, it's just a report if you get my drift'

RTE: 'These returns were by ferry from Dublin Port to Holyhead, or to Belfast, depending on individual circumstances.'

Were they indeed. And everyone in Holyhead and Belfast were okay with this were they?

A 45kg mingin rat!

This is the crux of the problem. Its not being highlighted enough. When its mentioned. The response should be" the right type of immigration will contribute partly towards pensions" its not going to make everyone able to retire at 50 either