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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • #21902
    K.G.
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,608 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    What we are dealing with now is the last hangover from the quota system. We had 30 years of restriction and then in fairness it was flagged early that quotas were being scrapped so its no wonder we all went a bit mad.so now you re at a settling period where I suspect the industry will rise and fall depending on market conditions. When you stand back all that has happened is a rebalanced of the national herd to what it was before in terms of suckler /dairy cow proportions.

    One of the big advantages of the abolition of quotas is the ability it gives to either reduce,increase,get out or come back depending on their circumstances.in the earlier conversation about mental health one of the tools available now is the ability to be flexible in numbers and system. What is wrong with dropping a Row or two or easing stocking rate for a year or 2 just to ease pressure. Often it has alot less effect on profitability than we might think. The yanks are very quick to cull if the profitability of cows decline and then ramp up as conditions improve.often worrying how things might look exasabates a mental health problem but most neighbours would hardly notice if you were milking a few less cows but they d definitely take note if either you or the cows were gone



  • #21903
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,922 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122168079#Comment_122168079

    ⁹it would be great to add maize and barley fir a grass ration for beef. Even oat hulls are an option at 90/ton with maize and some barley.

    Probably have a high energy ration back around 250/ton. 20% oat hulls, 55%maize 23% barley and 2% mins and vits

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #21904
    visatorro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Just looking at polls there. The mainstream parties seem to be holding ok. Clare daly and mick Wallace are in trouble. Absolute chancer Wallace anyway imv. Maybe different on polling day but I thought independent would poll better. So no change really.

    I don't know why iv an interest in politics. Nearly as bad as liking farming.



  • #21905
    ginger22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭ginger22


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122173729#Comment_122173729

    Wallace, Daly, Ming, all useless b,,,,,,s, in fact worse than useless.



  • #21906
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Ken Ring predicting a good summer for us



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  • #21907
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122173890#Comment_122173890

    We are fooked so.......



  • #21908
    straight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭straight


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122173890#Comment_122173890

    It's shaping up similar to 2018 so far anyway. Hoping for a good drought...



  • #21909
    straight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭straight


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122173186#Comment_122173186

    We all went a bit mad ...... that reminds me of bertie saying sure we all partied.



  • #21910
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122173943#Comment_122173943

    jesus please god not a repeat of 2018.. no way no thanks…



  • #21911
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122173892#Comment_122173892

    with the last 7/8years i follow the weather in new zealand… as i have noticed that whatever weather they get we get something similar.. if they have a wet spring we have a wet spring… wet summer there.. wet summer here etc… apparently they have had there best summer/autumn in years out there..

    i find his predictions to be on the money most of the time…. alot better than some of the apps that havent a bloody clue… he also gives a rundown on the history of weather etc.. can be long winded and youd want plenty of time on your hands to read it… hes appears totally independent.. doesnt believe in climate change… is not owned by the super rich like most media outlets are.. says what he knows from his studying of the weather… breath of fresh air… and better than listening to 'cows are killing the planet' nonsense



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  • #21912
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122174324#Comment_122174324

    last fookin thing we want after this spring



  • #21913
    visatorro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭visatorro


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122174627#Comment_122174627

    I said to myself several times if I see another 2018 I'll ring the auctioneer. Was a horrible year on and off farm here. Id say I wouldn't be the only one



  • #21914
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,127 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Much prefer a good long drought to the rain and slop we've had for the guts of the last 12 months



  • #21915
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,127 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122173890#Comment_122173890

    was he right last year?



  • #21916
    green daries
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭green daries


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122173759#Comment_122173759

    I agree there Terrible efforts of meps

    But id say the three of them were surprised they were elected in the first place



  • #21917
    straight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭straight


    One of my favourite first calvers are after getting photosentization. I have her inside now for a few weeks to clear up. Vet said I can never leave her out again because it will reoccur. I was surprised by that. Dry her off and fatten her I guess.

    Tough enough run of it here lately but sure that's farming.



  • #21918
    minerleague
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭minerleague


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122175946#Comment_122175946

    Happened a suckler cow here - it never re-occurred since, putting it down to something she ate ( st johns wort??)



  • #21919
    Birdnuts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,005 ✭✭✭✭Birdnuts


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122173759#Comment_122173759

    Ming is pretty popular in the West, especcially among small farmers who he has batted for in Brussels via the Ag Committee against the policies of the main stream farming orgs who aren't interested in a fairer CAP for the small guy. The current betting suggests he will easily get in again too. My definition of useless is that Maria Walshe of the Blueshirts who despite being on the Ag commitee in Brussels, never attended any of their meetings!!



  • #21920
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122175946#Comment_122175946

    Could you try a bag of humates on her before you go to think of drying her off?

    Vet may have no experience of humates fed to stock. I don't even know if it'd work myself on her. Just going on a hunch that photosentization is cause by toxins in the bloodstream and the humates may take it out and reverse the situation.

    http://humac-organic.ie/shop-all

    Had a look at the price of the bag. Maybe try the bucket first. 😯 It's not much anyway recommended per day. So bucket may do. But then there's a big difference in price per kg. So now I've talked myself back to the bag. Anyway whatever. Humates.



  • #21921
    Base price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,780 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122175946#Comment_122175946

    I've had a few with it over the years and the one common factor is that they were either Simmental crosses out of dairy cows or suckler bred by Simmental bulls. Do you have any Simmental, Fleckvieh or crosses in the herd?



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  • #21922
    dairyedge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭dairyedge


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122175946#Comment_122175946

    Is that where a cow is wobbly and goes down due to the sun? Sun burn on white skin? If so she will be fine and no need to cull. What I’m thinking of is also related to what they have eaten. Have had some new vets call this spring time and swear I know more about bovines then they do and me the poorer for it.



  • #21923
    green daries
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭green daries


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122176122#Comment_122176122

    Definitely there some vets new out of college and they are very poor on there diagnosis it's not great.



  • #21924
    ginger22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭ginger22


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122175946#Comment_122175946

    I think it is an allergic reaction to something toxic she ate, ferns, ragworth maybe. Have had some cases here over the years. They will never fully recover but it won't do them a lot of harm either. No cure for it.



  • #21925
    Siamsa Sessions
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,628 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122176031#Comment_122176031

    I’d vote for Ming if he was in the South constituency. Whether you agree with him or not, he seems to be out there fighting for his constituents and he knows their farming reality.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • #21926
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,922 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122176031#Comment_122176031

    I agree with you on Ming. He got luck to be elected to the Dail first day but has rode his luck. Know his voters and who will vote for him and like Maria Harken targets that vote.

    I intensely dislike Mick Eallace and Claire Daly and hope neither get elected. They were and are a disgrace over the Ukraine war. On independents in general especially in the Dail we have too many. I have lost respect for some of them especially the Healy Rae's, one time I taught they were a breath of fresh air. However they never want to go into government or support a government so effectively it a waste of a vote voting for them

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #21927
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122175946#Comment_122175946

    That's normally a one off and cures, unless it's a rare form. Conventional medicine won't offer much but if you know someone sound with experience in herbal or homeopathyit can be very helpfulin such cases.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • #21928
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122170294#Comment_122170294

    I asked a few of them how many farmers did they expect to meet their top 20% KPI targets and they all tried to answer me with straight faces!

    Nothing wrong with a small bit of measuring and comparing but you can only play with the hand your dealt after.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • #21929
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122168558#Comment_122168558

    Well "Friesian" isn't really accurate and "Holstein" does carry a bit of baggage, hence all the fudging I'd say.

    Given the controlling influence of the HoFr society on the ICBF, isn't the direction of these indices surprising?

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • #21930
    wrangler
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122176490#Comment_122176490

    I got an outbreak in the sheep when I mistakenly gave too much copper to texel sheep, they got over it with a steroid injection, some lost their ears though



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  • #21931
    straight
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122175995#Comment_122175995

    Ya, something she ate most likely awakened the toxins in her bloodstream and they are there for evermore now I'm told. I don't have too many weeds around or nothing in particular that should cause any harm. Sure of course they love eating the ditches on the way in to milking. Could be genetic too but her mother was a very healthy cow.



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