150KTubs - future career in Virgin Radio and other soulful pursuits **Mod: Read OP**

Speaking of “sticking to the topic” do you ever post about anything other than, our esteemed, Mr Dugnutt?

It’s just, whenever you seem to, infrequently, log in, it doesn’t appear to be to add to any discussion, bar a small handful, it’s, almost exclusively to “have a go” at Bobson who, like him, or not, is discussing the “issues” at hand and contributing to threads.

It should be noted that this isn’t just a “Radio Forum” thing, you follow him, angrily, across the site. It’s quite bizarre, and obsessive, behaviour.

Whats that about, P?

Ryan Tubridy is not my “buddy”, I have met him on a couple of occasions and found him to be very affable and he didn’t shy away from getting his round in.

I’ve stuck to the topic fairly well, bar in this interaction with you. I’ve even cleared up the issue around the €150k payment that was contractually guaranteed and was in no way a crime or, even, a “wrong-doing”.

Of course, this money would have been returned, as stated, had a new contract been agreed but once Mr Bakhurst tore that up so was any responsibility for Ryan to pay it back.

All of this was, and is, an RTÉ issue and the biggest victims of the “fallout” are, both, Ryan Tubridy and Noel Kelly Management. Ryan for allowing his employer to pay him in an odd way and Noel for being the best talent agent in the country, doing the best for those on his “books”.

He's is not really. He's trolling IMO. He suggesting for example that people that don't have a TV licence shouldn't be able to argue against the mismanagement of RTÉ the national public service broadcaster, slightly off topic, while calling everyone a scrounger. He will only deal in circular arguments and never give any real opinion of his own. As I have said in other threads he like the media, RTÉ, academia and politicians believe that the crisis in RTÉ is because : -

1. The funding model is broken
2. If we fix the funding model or if the funding model had been changed then RTÉ would not have mismanagement the company nor with the governance issues exist

Both of these things fail to point out, for example, that the payment made to Tub's agent was made via a barter account which the report into the barter account says it can see no reason why these payments should have been funnelled through these accounts. Yet, it saves RTE et al by also saying that no one gain financial from these governance issues.

Back to the good old "nothing burger" defence. Classic.

Overall the figures for 2fm are nothing to be proud of for Dan Healy. They can part ways with presenters but this is as close as 2fm gets to a shake-up and of course announce their summer schedule. Unfortunately 2fm never do anything radical or push the envelope to set the radio station apart from the others in that demographic. Going forward I predict more of the same, just different people.

Loud mouthed scroungers like tubridy, I agree.

Oh, that. I dunno, I guess I just find it, incredibly, odd that you seem to only log in with the sole purpose of “having a go” at the lad.

Never to counter the “argument” or add anything.

Sure "E"

Now, are you gonna reply to the posts above by podgeandrodge and daithi ma and ro Kelly. Where they take your argument apart.

Or just do what your amigos do best. Attack posters and not the posts

Excellent point "E".

Where are the "3" "amigos" "gone" to?

Did "i" use "enough" "quotation marks"????

I dont listen to either the Virgin Radio UK show or the Weekend thing that is aired regionally but like most people I find the whole Tubs thing interesting from a soap opera point of view.

What I always found interesting about the virgin radio deal was the simulcast on Q102. Obviously this costs nothing extra to the owners as they own both stations but I had thought that they did this to shore up the listener figures. I dont see any precise number for his Q102 weekday figures (i saw a bland Q102 up x amount of listeners type of headline) but there is no way his Irish weekday numbers for Q are making up for the big drop in the UK.

The solution to me anyway is to drop the simulcast and just do the UK show and in doing that drop all the references to Ireland etc. The UK audiences are not buying it, to them its a syndicated show from Ireland same as Casey Casem on Nova was back in the day here. He could VT a show for Q102 which could play out at the same time and which without any UK references may be a better show for Dublin audiences. This current thing is probably alienating both sets of listeners, it is just about the worst solution you could think of.

All of this was, and is, an RTÉ issue and the biggest victims of the “fallout” are, both, Ryan Tubridy and Noel Kelly Management.

This lad is taking the piss at this point.

I've often see him posting on After Hours, never a good sign from a user.

To be fair, I have no problem getting extra pay in creative ways at work while not tell anyone else about it so they didnt go asking for it too. In fact I have done. Doesnt make Tubridy worth what he was paid though.

Here's my view on the 150k from "Renault"

1. Yes Tubs Did not do the work
2. Yes there might be a moral obligation but this is not legal and really depends on your view point
3. It was part of the contract or agreement

The difficult is with RTÉ

1. As DG/CEO of the company Dee Forbes signed off on the payment
2. She signed off on the use of the barter account for this payment
3. She ultimately wrote the cheque
4. She ultimately hide the payments
5. She is ultimately responsible for this movement of money

He cannot in any manner present those circumventions as honest mistakes or oversights.

He cannot, but he will damn well try such is his brazenness…. which ultimately is one of the reasons people consider him to be a despicable human being.

There was a well known saying from yesteryear that springs to mind when briefly thinking about Tubridy;

"I wouldn't pi$$ on him if he was on fire"

I don't believe there's much he can do to salvage the reputational damage done by this. His name is now associated with greed, dishonesty and financial trickery. Most of his listeners are of an age where they were financially affected by recessions of the past. That makes stories like Tubridy's hard to swallow. Nobody like hypocrisy. Charlie Haughey's "Tighten our belts" speech gained notoriety when we learned about his lifestyle. I don't think the Irish people ever forgave him for that.

If they wanted, they 'could' get him back for ~€50k/pa to do 1h of Radio per day…

but RTÉ being RTÉ, would offer him a fair €175k-€200k to do it.

…as I said earlier: Dee Forbes is a dishonest sack of sh1t.

I'm not sure that RTE would. His value, in terms of the sunk costs of RTE publicity and promotion, was still relatively high at the time of the negotiations but he rapidly became toxic as the face of the payments scandal. His value to RTE dropped after that and there was no other Irish national broadcaster who seemed to be interested in him. Callan seems to be getting on OK. The LLS has had one of its best seasons in years. There's also the licence fee issue now and RTE will not want to inflict any more problems on itself.

Regards…jmcc

Jennifer Zamparelli is leaving 2FM. That's four high profile presenters gone.

Tubridy will be remembered more for the payments scandal and the changes it forced on RTE rather than his broadcasting career. It seems a very different organisation today to the one it was a year ago.

Regards…jmcc

Ironically he's the one who has fared the worst from it all The other four will manage just fine in a post-RTE world.

He's an RTE lifer. The others have lives outside of RTE.

Regards…jmcc

They're doing an event in St Annes Park in Dublin … seems like they have a paying market of some sort.

I was following the lads for years before, their first youtube hit was 7 ago.

I know that if you're in the Dublin bubble they'd easily fly under the radar, but they had a national audience before 2fm.