Israel/Palestine Thread

ah yes, they didn’t want the thing they love doing to be a war crime

Looks like the Irish government will announce it is recognising the state of Palestine tomorrow morning - press conference with the three party leaders planned.

Recognising the State of Palestine will likely further divide us from American public opinion.

It’s a very strange time to recognise the state of Palestine apart from political opportunism and a petty retort at the abhorrent current Israeli regime.

It’s basically giving Hamas a victory for its terrorist attack on October 7th.

I think it’s a miscalculation.

Joe Biden.

It is utterly staggering , am at a loss for words at the stupidity of Harris and the Irish Government. This is handing a propaganda coup to Hamas, nothing else and I just can't understand anything about it. Embarrassing, naive, stupid and dangerous.

You know the Hamas leaders are subject to the same request for arrest warrants as Netenbastard and Galant? Its hardly a validation for Hamas, let alone a 'victory'.

This has nothing to do with the North or anything we have ever done on this island, perhaps in Harris's tiny little mind it does who the f**k knows what is going on in there. He is simply giving succour and propaganda support to Hamas and the timing is insane. I have a low opinion of Harris anyway but to see Ryan and Martin go along with this is mind blowing.

Would Ireland be about to recognise Palestine if Hamas/Iran had not attacked Israel on October 7th?

Hamas/Iran knew exactly what Israel would do after an attack of that level especially with such an extreme right wing government in place - the whole point was to splinter the west and reinforce support in the Arab world and beyond

Ireland just appear blinkered by the awful scenes in Gaza , getting easily wound up by the Netanyahu scumbag govt and are showing no nuance in their foreign policy

we should be working back channels to try and get a change in government in Israel by pressuring the US and other close allies

not handing Hamas/Iran a win due to frustration/ upset and political populism

it’s a poorly timed decision and there’s still a few hours for a pull back to discuss a road map to recognition etc etc

There is no way they are going to delay the announcement no matter how much the pro Israeli side is disagreeable to it. According to wiki 143 countries have already recognised Palestine so of all the things to get upset about, this seems a strange one.

Going after Michael Martin for the smoking ban, really? Amazing how easy it is to rile up supporters of Israel. The 144th country to recognise Palestine and Israel potentially being called out by the ICC I guess makes this a bad day.

This isn't an Arab / Israeli thing and never has been. It is an attempt by Iran and associated Islamic HHH terrorist groups to destabilise Israel and the West no doubt with plenty of advice and support and prompting from Putin who profits while we are all distracted. Israel had to respond to the attacks on 7th October and they knew that and in Hamas land and in Iran and Moscow they all sit back and get out the popcorn and watch the west eat itself alive. South Africa are now closely aligning with Putin (recently joint military exercises for example) and their ICC nonsense is again no doubt being supported in Moscow and is contributing to this lunacy from the ICC.

Tha naivety of people and the lack of awareness of what is actually going on here is hard to fathom. Harris and the broader Irish political establishment really should stick to filling in potholes and cycle lanes. They just don't have the ability to cope with this.

It isn't genocide, its a war. A horrible messy conflict which is going to kill and has killed thousands started by Hamas with Iranian support and no doubt Russian interference and encouragement. Iran, Russia and Islamic terrorism benefits from this mess and this is big boy terrorism and war mongering at play. If you want to believe its a genocide fire ahead, nothing I am going to say will change your mind but doing anything which gives succour and support to Hamas and the other H's and Iran and onto Russia and Putin is nothing more than total and utter stupidity. That is what Harris and the two other muppets are doing tomorrow.