Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

They're far more concerned about optics than anything else

Whack a mole with tents continues. Unsurprisingly.

asylum seeker’s living by the canal were removed on busses to Crooksling and Citywest. It’s not yet clear if asylum seekers are being relocated there or somewhere else today. 

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0516/1449471-international-protection-applicants-ireland/

Has the 'near future' arrived I wonder?

Tents been removed for the cup final match tomorrow.

And the madness continues. Let's have amnesty and just let all these lads stay. Get them onto the housing list.

Yeap, well I was listening to the debates on the EU elections lastnight, Peter Casey's idea to temporarily close the IPAS office on Mount St. and put a 6 month block on accepting of new asylum seekers, at least with the office closed to new applications the staff can work on catching up with the current backlog and allow the authorities to come up with a better solution than tents on the banks of the old canal…

Yeah I'm one of those very annoying sarcastic people. If they have kids i think they would be bumped up.

Pat Kenny was asking are they WhatsAppn their mates to come over here. Which is the nail on the head. Get over here ,camp out and then get placed in a hotel etc. ( once the Ukrainians move out these lads will move in)

so the message gone out is

Come on lads , get a tent , camp on the canal for a week . Dont worry do gooders will sort you . Then we scoop the tents up and get luxary busses to move you

Oh dont worry we will move Ukrainian women and children for you . They have been here two years and kids in school and for exams etc but thats no bother lads you get the rooms

Stop giving out tents. It's too much waste.

As the risk of repeating myself from earlier in this thread, why dont Ireland and UK link up on this one? If both countries formed some sort of border force (do we have such means for such a thing?) across the two islands, and had a clear message saying "anyone trying to enter these shores illegally will be deported to Rwanda". Assist UK in the crossings from France.

Hopefully deter movement through uk across to NI and into the Republic.

Because that would never occur to the arrogant senior politicians here. McEntee would never want to be seen to ask for help

I dont see what would be wrong with it.

UK been trying to get more assistance from France. If us helping UK out benefits us ultimately, I don't see the problem. We'd be helping each other out rather than approaching UK with our cap in hand as it were.

It's time to send FFFGG/Labour/Soc.Dems/PBP "the Woke left" a message in the Euro elections that the current open for all policies aren't sustainable or working…

I'd still be sceptical this will result in people voting for right wing candidates in large numbers. It's all very well people saying they are concerned about immigration at the doorstep, but it's more than likely they will continue to vote for FF, FG, SF, Labour, Greens, Soc Dems, PBP etc. People can take on board ideas that appeal to the right wing without necessarily feeling the need to vote for right wing parties or candidates.

Every bit of plant and equipment that was at the site in Clonmel this morning is being moved off.
I was watching a live feed from there this morning and I thought that the bobcat and dumper was just going in through the second entrance and work would start. But no, low loaders now taking everything away including lighting and toilet cabins.

I agree that some of the issues we have experienced (and are currently experiencing) were and are preventable. But I do also believe that in pressured, novel, or unexpected circumstances we do need to be a bit more allowing for the fact that "getting it right" is difficult. There is nothing wrong with criticising the government — it is a healthy feature of any democracy — but I think there's a serious level of arrogance on here as to how assured people are that all of the issues are just down to complete incompetence, treachery, conspiracy and lefty liberal wokeness. Unless people are willing to lift their heads out of the tendency to lazily promote an argument by simply emnifying politicians or migrants / asylum seekers, they should reflect on the fact that they are part of the reason why we will struggle to come to rational and workable consensus on how we move into the future.

And I don't just mean in the little bubble of this thread — I mean in our daily lives and the discussions / debates we have which all feed into the collective discourse. T