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Bruce Springsteen General Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭musicmania


    I couldn't care less if they charged €50 a pint. People can laugh at people complaining about the price of beer/selection.

    However most, if not all, of the other complaints are valid. Just because I got lucky strolling into to Croke Park, it is clear from photos posted a few pages back that many people did have a hassle, that they shouldn't. It is totally unacceptable for simple organisation to fail. Good weather, and a venue well used to huge crowds, should be well able to cope with getting everyone in, in a timely fashion.

    I noticed the difficulty with scanning the tickets in those stalls. In low light. They can't blame sun flare for that. Weirdly mine scanned no problem. Mine scanned immediately. I had it save to Google wallet, so curious to know from those who had problems were they showing on the TM app, or Apple?

    There were many really annoyed people leaving last night. I did tell them if they'd suffered the hell that some of us endured on Thursday, they'd realise it was actually OK after the gig last night. I do think some previous knowledge did play a part. I made sure I exited back out of Fosters Ave. Getting squashed on Jones Road six not appeal!

    Regarding comment further up, some of us are considerate of our neighbours when taking photos or videos.

    While I'm glad I got to see the tour in Dublin, and Cork, I am adamant in never going to a concert in Pairc Ui Chaoimh again. Unless they put another bridge over the river, or do a river taxi.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,719 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    I think a lot of the issue is that there is no support act so people surge into the stadium at the last minute. Kilkenny was bad too. Not enough signs, no megaphones, not enough barriers/ticket scanners. But then again many only tried to gain entry in the last half hour, myself included. It was a shambles though. The toilets closed at 9.45pm and the lighting, or lack of, on exiting was really disorientating. The Rockshore mobile sales stalls on the pitch were selling alcoholic drinks only (not just beer btw) so as someone who wasn't drinking I would have had to leave and go outside the pitch if I wanted a drink, I didn't bother.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Tipp1991


    Regarding the scanning of tickets, on iPhone's if you saved the ticket to your Wallet, it worked via NFC so low light wouldn't have been an issue. If you used the Ticketmaster app, it displayed the barcode. I'm not sure if this was the same on Android devices. One thing that does cause issue is people having the display brightness of the devices turned down (to save battery life). I've been at events in the past where people were advised to have the brightness turned up before scanning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭polydactyl


    and yet I joined the queue for red route as directed at 4.20 and only got in at 545. No passes left…. So perhaps you managed to join a splinter queue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    Anyone rushing back to a gig in Pairc Ui Caoimh needs immediate nd intensive counseling. City is not set up for a show of that size.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,529 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    People in the wrong area is a different problem. There is no doubt that signposting should have been better. Big screens are readily available nowadays, red route, blue route etc could have been designated by such devices so that there were no delays caused by people being in the wrong place.



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    People weren't in the wrong area. They were in the correct area, in a massive queue. Slowed down by the manual reading of tickets, instead of scanning them with technology.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    We got the passes at 5.25, we were in the queue a lot earlier than that. Sorry you missed out, hope you got a good spot and enjoyed the gig.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭polydactyl


    ah misunderstood the timing. We ended up at the barricade anyway as didn’t stop for drinks etc. Great view great night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,769 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Well Aiken didnt help.

    There should have been free shuttle buses running from the city centre for people.

    They had them for some gaa matches there recently, it should be mandatory.

    Expecting people to walk 2-3 miles along mud paths is just ludicrous.

    I noticed the difficulty with scanning the tickets in those stalls. In
    low light. They can't blame sun flare for that. Weirdly mine scanned no
    problem. Mine scanned immediately. I had it save to Google wallet, so
    curious to know from those who had problems were they showing on the TM
    app, or Apple?

    Ive seen it first hand multiple times with these new rotating qr codes, they dont scan properly.

    Have been told to just go on in multiple times as the ticket couldnt be scanned properly.

    These mobile tickets arent fit for purpose, should go back to pdf.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,529 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    As I said, a person who knows what there are at will scan more quickly than a person approaching an unfamiliar machine.

    I'm not sure who owns the land around PUC, but there council or someone has to ensure that you can get in and out safely and the public transport authorities need to provide some services if there are tens of thousands of people there. Concert licences could require a payment to fund such buses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,065 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    There were big arrows, pointing to the red and blue routes, but the problem for me was that the red route advised on the ticket Foster Terrace wasn't open, and we had to go back to Clonliffe Road at Drumcondra Instead. How hard is it to give accurate information to people beforehand?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    If he had any decency Bruce should have been on to Aiken about all these problems.

    Why didn’t Bruce threaten a no show ?

    As the poster above said - Shuttle buses should be laid on.

    For god sake for the cost of the tickets there should’ve been buses laid on to cork, limerick, galway, Wexford.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,529 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Not hard. They could email or text people if the arrangements had changed and inform them of the revised setup. They know exactly who has each ticket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭lc180


    Rockshore is absolute muck but.... Selling cans of beer meant I was able to stock up, buy 6, stick them in jacket pockets, drink whenever during the set and not have to go to the bar & miss any songs... Only silver lining.

    Now we just need the organisers to sell an actual enjoyable beer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭Sean Seoighe


    Nothing further to add on the sh1tshow that was getting in, however as someone who didn't get onto the pitch until I think 7.40 (and loads were behind me too) - given Aiken knew what was happening why didn't they ask for gig to be delayed or would they have done this and Bruce said no?



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Because there is a curfew that means the show would have been cut drastically short



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,939 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    you would need hundreds of buses/drivers to transport 30,000 from Puc after a concert in good time. Simply doesn’t exist that many buses or drivers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,519 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Kilkenny is up on Nugs.net



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,399 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    In regard to PUC Cork, many roads were closed that could have allowed buses and taxis, just for drops and collections, also poor lighting

    Did Aiken arrange security stewards etc., as a few had no knowledge of Cork



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    This makes the decision to remove the tops off the bottles of water even more nonsensical. Were cans sold unopened? I understand why lids are taken off water bottles - so they can't be used as missiles, although why anyone would think that would be an issue at a Springsteen gig is beyond me. But a thrown unopened can could cause a nasty injury as well. The women beside us were allowed to keep the tops on their bottles, there just seems to be so much inconsistency with decisions. And if I'd known we wouldn't be searched going in I would just brought a bottle from outside instead of paying €3.15.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    But is the curfew 10.30? I thought it was 11, but I could be wrong, especially as it was a Sunday night i.e. If it's 11, could have delayed it back by over half hour. I was in the queue on the way in, when I heard the gig kicking off. I was surprised. I thought that when the organisation was out of control at that point and it was clear that the stewards hadn't a clue what was happening, that the start would be delayed until at least most people were into the stadium. But I guess, it's all jut another business - the promotor doesn't give a shlt, as they had their money earned already. And Bruce and his gang didn't care. They were jut going to do their show and head off again with their pockets full of cash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Bruce and the band and production etc have a gig to play in front of 80,000 people. Band meetings, vocal warm ups, getting dressed, tuning up, warming up etc. Theyre not sat in the back monitoring the queues or concerned if the bars are selling shite beer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭FazyLucker


    I think this is where promoters applying for licenses need to be held to account. As said above, Aiken had earned their money and there is no good in Joe Duffy being the moral police on the matter or a paper apology.

    The only thing promoters understand is "what is the story with the next license" and unless it hits them in the pocket, they don't give a sh**e. There should be a Garda investigation in to the lack of control of the crowd management and Aiken should not be given another Croke Park license until they come up with plans for how they intend to manage it in future. It was pure people self-policing that avoided any further issue, I think the age demograph may have helped and not everybody at every concert would be as patient. Without sounding over dramatic order can break down so quickly in these scenarios and the upshot can be serious.

    The one piece of proper crowd control I saw was on Jones's road on the way out. But it was a terrible idea because there was only a couple of thousand people coming off the pitch and the thousands coming out of the Hogan/Canal end were being corralled on to a tiny narrow badly lit road rather than straight up on to Clonliffe which I needed to get to to get my bike (another sh1t storm from earlier in the evening where I was met by an overly aggressive Beangarda but won't bore anybody with the details, I was just relieved it was still there).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭joinme


    Future concert tip - bring one or two water bottle tops with you. They're tiny, won't be found in a pocket. Then you have back up if they take the lids



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Yes we thought of that afterwards, usually would be drinking something else but drove home after the gig so no alcohol this time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    I was in croker on sunday with my wife. Bruce was fantastic as usual, last time I seen him was 2016, he hasn't missed a step. The sound wasn't great but thats always the case in croke park.

    We were on the Pitch, via the Blue Route. we were lucky to make it into the stadium for around 6:55pm. Our train was delayed, we were supposed to arrive into drumcondra at 6:10pm, but the train got delayed, it was closer to 6:30 when it got to the station. I thought the blue route was pretty slow, but when I heard the horror stories of the red route on the train home I can see how lucky we were.

    My wife was shocked at the toilet situation, there were no ladies toilets within the stadium for anyone on the pitch, she had to exit the stadium, and use portaloos at the back of the cusak stand, that weren't segregated.
    The cherry on the cake was the hotdog that gave me food poisoning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭FazyLucker


    Was their mens toilets on the pitch? I might have drank more if I'd known but maybe I am just as well as I'd have been drinking p1ss and making p1ss……

    Also I don't buy the excuse that they had to avoid pints being spilt on the pitch, Croke Park I'm sure has an irrigation system which could have been run for a few hours to wash away the beer. It was only one concert. I think the promoters saw an opportunity to fleece the punter into paying €7.50 for a can.



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