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Liveline: Thread with no name, Host with no shame

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    I have to say today's show brought back so many memories. I was just a young kid. My father owned Black & Co, the shop that the Slainte lorry was outside , the one that saved the life of Vincent Campion who worked for my dad and who was interviewed today . My dad's shop was next door to Guineys and both shops took the brunt of the explosion along with the unfortunate people on the street.

    I'll never forget the phone call (the old fashioned phone out in the hall) when a relative rang to tell us. The phone lines to the shop were destroyed so we didn't know for hours if my Dad and his staff were alive or dead. No mobile phones then, no texts . We were all crying (all 7 of us kids) and my poor mum too. Thankfully althought the shop was destroyed and all his furniture, nobody was badly injured, the luck of God ….as with many on that day then many not so lucky.

    So the horror comes back and the realization now as an adult of what he must have gone through, his shop floor a makeshift morgue, bodies from the street being brought in, there was no counselling in those days, no talk of PTSD, nothing. He never spoke of that day, he couldn't. Strong people in different times.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Very sorry to hear that @mykrodot. I’m delighted your dad and all his staff escaped unscathed. It really was a horrible experience for all involved including yourself. I don’t think any of us would have minded hearing the peoples experiences on a sensitive show. Most of us here are mainly pissed off with Joe and his digging for ghoulish details. The sad thing is that it ends up undermining any value in hearing the accounts. I know nobody on here thinks being at ground central in a car bombing is anything but a highly traumatising and deeply unpleasant experience. We don’t need the morbid details to make us realise this.

    I hope your dad and his staff and shop went well after the event. Best wishes to you and your family.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    El presidente would be bad lined if he called into Joe these words:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    thanks so much for your post, much appreciated. My Dad died a long time ago now, my mum very elderly. But it was always in their memories. No offence taken at all, and I completely get what you're saying about Joe Duffy, his ghoulisness is off the scale! I rarely listen to him, just my sister text me yesterday to say the bombing segment was on. Thanks again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    The bombings are in the memory of anyone over a certain age, but nothing compared to people directly involved like your family. I was pretty young but had loved trips into town, but there was the fear of God from then on for a good while. I used to worry about my Dad getting home safe from work, and this was common among our neighbours. They were uneasy times in Dublin and border areas, you kept your mouth shut for fear of upsetting the wrong people, and as a young person I didn’t quite know who were “the wrong people”. Anyone with a Northern accent would send nervous shivers through you as there was a certain narrative going around.

    Liveline often deals in long past issues, but that comes generally across as being more motivated by Joe’s ghoulery than as a service to validate the traumatic memories of those who were affected. The reality is that people are shaped by their past traumas and “forgetting” is not a reality for many.

    Sensitive programs could best serve the needs of people. Maybe a special ongoing series with listener/viewer input, on radio or television could serve such a purpose, dealing with the Troubles, the Church, past social issues, the Stardust, how women were treated in a patriarchal society and much more.

    Younger folk, or those with the good fortune of having resilience now might think digging up the past is taking over coals, but people live with traumatic legacy forever in one shape or another. Be it they bury it and become substance abusers, get flashbacks that stop them in their stride, or feel the need to pour over it all forensically as away of coping. A program where the host doesn’t seem to get “pleasure” out of it would serve many much better.

    Liveline ounces some of these traumatic issues in the middle of the day with hardly a warning, typically at a time people might be driving and get unexpectedly swept into listening. A pre-flagged program “next week we will be dealing with the Dublin & Monaghan Bombings” would allow people to gather their thoughts together and submit them for possible inclusion in the program material.

    Other times Liveline deals with absolute nonsense and trivia. I think it would best serve as a platform for current & more recent discussion from the perspective of ordinarily callers, and highlight present concerns from scams going around and encourage solutions and remind people of ways to to avoid and overcome by encouraging verified experts to come on rather than always dragging everything out ad nauseum. A bit of humour here and there is no harm when relating issues, but could we possibly avoid entire Funny Frydays.



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    you make an excellent point but preplanning the show wouldn’t allow Joe to drag up whatever pet issue he thought of in the car on the way in. It’s been mentioned here before that he dumps the pre prepared stuff from his staff and, to be fair to them, if that’s likely to happen, why bother. Worse, he seems to have deciddd he’s the producer as well so topics drag on as long as he’s interested in them.

    Liveline could be a great show if it was well managed. The problem at present is an annoying little man treating the slot as his own personal fiefdom to air out whatever bugbears he has as nauseum with no brakes on his control.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Co-founder of Riverdance: ‘Michael Flatley did not create Riverdance’

    “When I first created Riverdance in my heart I knew it was going to be a [success],” he(Flatley) said. 

    Maybe lay off your "bottle of poison". No wonder "his" whiskey is called "The Dreamer". Is there no end to Fartley's talents?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    No end to money & sense of self-importance with some of these, although overall I think Flatley is probably a decent enough chap. You want a whiskey named after you, just commission a small new product development company to do the technical & patent set -up for you and identify a manufacturing service and dance your way into profit & more fame, hopefully.
    ”What style whiskey do you want the drink named after you to be?”
    “Cheap & nasty, but that people will love me for it”.
    “Here, we’ll set up a blend of already identified dregs, it will be your name on it, we’ll send you the bill”.
    “Begorrah sir, I love my Ireland, people will love me for it as much as I love them”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    Exactly that.

    I heard from somebody who was socialising with the spouse of one of the producers, some years back, and they go to a lot of work doing hours of research on a topic or two which had been agreed on, only for the script to be binned when Lord Dollymount saunters in with a new idea.

    About two years ago, I think it was, RTE were advertising for a Liveline researcher, no doubt went to an insider’s family member but I considered applying. I have the needed research skills, technical ability , and a huge interest in uncovering stuff. Salary minimal tbh, but Montrose is very near me, and it would have filled in time and supplemented my income. However I know I would have been regularly infuriated by my work being regularly dismantled by an individual earning 10 times my wage.

    If properly based on the good work by researchers after due direction from the Producer, who would have consulted Joe and the more senior radio bosses along the way, it could be a much better show. I love the idea where ordinary people can have input, where people can be empowered in the media, yet with a reasonable degree of moderation for safety. But Joe controls the show just a bit too much. His job is to present it live on air, after listening to researchers & making his own suggestions, of course. The Senior Producer and senior radio managers should have broad final say.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Uncle Gaybo was often also the producer of his shows, but at least he was named as such.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    For many years he produced the LLS, but then got it produced for him as it was taking too much of his time. He had the kudos, connections and know-how to be able to personally source guests, prepare the dialogue, create a time schedule with built-in flexibility. Joe may be the de facto producer, but he has to be seen to be the impersonal arbitrator on topics… er cough cough splutter splutter I just choked on something that was hard to swallow.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Was going to say similar. Gay was an all round pro and he had his faults and biases but he knew how to keep a show rolling without getting bogged down on the same handful of similar topics over and over. I wouldn’t put Joe in charge of producing a toddlers play!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,076 ✭✭✭mountain


    we will discover today if Duffy was a fan of Tony O Reilly, he ticks a few boxes,

    Kerrygold the main one,

    However the drawback might be Rugby which Duffy may not be too keen on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭calculator


    Have to be honest, I thought he was long dead already 😳



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    I’d doubt it! Tge man of the salt of the earth working people couldn’t be scrolling the virtues of a well got Prince of commerce who wouldn’t have ever eaten coddle or frequented tge chipper so to speak!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Might do a hatchet job on him.

    Rumour has it O'Reilly threw Duffy 50p once after reversing the merc into a tight spot around the corner from the Gate Theatre, incorrectly assuming that Duffoon was a 'lockhard' man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,978 ✭✭✭✭dvcireland


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    "…and Does your dog put out fires, Sir Anthony ?…""



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,492 ✭✭✭leath_dub


    Large crowds outside Croke Park yesterday for the Bruce Springsteen gig ( oh the humanity!!) as p1ssed up late arrivals all converged at the stadium after 6pm

    Surely Joe will get some mileage out of this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    passed Crocker area yesterday evening, other than to say free bit of Brucie but won’t make a Mountain out of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    JOE

    HIQA Foyre reports on Nooorsing homes. Ronan Collins please come on, your homes are not compliant.

    Last of de Mohicans… a buoy with such a haircut sacked from School

    Queueing system Croker for Brucie. Let de Peepul be heard.

    He sounded Cast Down at first, cheered up in de finale,



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Your votes please… Will Joe talk about:

    A De Nursing Homes (again)

    B. De chislers expelled for de BA Barakus haircut

    C Bruce

    D An incident in the north wall in 1947 where a machine collapsed and killed 5 workers stone dead… or something similar!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,492 ✭✭✭leath_dub


    "I'm gonna have to vote for option D there, Bob" 🙂



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Today in Studio S7.1:

    • Command Chair: Just Joe, Lord of Dollymount
    • Guest Chairs: None

    Possible Topics:

    • Joe is great lad altogether.
    • Stuff de Researchers found on social media.
    • HIQA Reports: Fire concerns, Passage Health International, Lucan Lodge. Ronan Collins (not de DJ) and Sheila will not talk to Joe.
    • 'Moicano' Cut: Lad banned from school until it hair regrows, What's wrong with a 'Moicano' Air Cut. It is called a 'Mohawk' Joe.
    • Bruce: People talking, it is not de National Concert Hall, so to speak.

    Banned Topics:

    • Wolfe Tone vs Montrose
    • State of Hospitals
    • De Unwell
    • De Undocumented
    • RVM Machine Tax
    • Inflation
    • Lack of Doctors
    • Lack of Dentists
    • Lack of Gaffs
    • Lack of punishment for Crime
    • Sir Anthony's Death


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,978 ✭✭✭✭dvcireland


    people talking amongst themselves…the scourge of moderin concert attendance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,839 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Jesus it's not going to be that today is it?

    • 'Moicano' Cut: Lad banned from school until it hair regrows, What's wrong with a 'Moicano' Air Cut. It is called a 'Mohawk' Joe.

    So Tom Browns schooldays meets Last of the Mohicans?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    FAKE Skams re purchases online on dodgy social meeja sites, such as sites that read personal messages of users. Unfortunately our Lords & Masters are afraid to say boo to the sites hosting these. Can’t be upsetting Big Tech.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,492 ✭✭✭leath_dub


    Hasn't Joe done the "expelled/suspended from school for inappropriate hairstyle" a gazillion times at this stage? It seems to be on more regularly than the "self-published bukes" slot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,829 ✭✭✭✭Dan Jaman




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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Sadly option A is the winner ☹️



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