Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

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Got any examples of misinformation .

For someone not involved in the process you seem very adamant that you are right about this. I can assure you that you aren’t.

Can I just ask what kind of misinformation and ignorance is out there generally about this?

Not sure if you're serious or not? ha

I'll join the dots for you as you don't seem to be following. The UK is our closest neighbour and not so dissimilar to us as we might like and they are a century or two ahead of us in terms of dealing with immigration. You can think of it as a giant experiment from which we can learn what works and what doesn't.

I have lived and worked in three EU countries enjoying the freedom of movement that EU membership provides so 100 per cent not anti-EU.

I'm against the brainless left wing consensus that all immigration is an unalloyed good when in reality it's a very complex issue. We will only gain as a country if we approach this issue very carefully with data led decision making.

I'm not going to go into an enormous amount of detail.

There is a reason why civil servants don't get involved here. They are precluded from engaging with these debates on social media by a code of conduct.

I didn't want to say anything that may inadvertently identify my relative.

Unfortunately this leaves space for people to come out with completely untrue statements, such as the one I responded to, and present then as facts.

The UK are completely different to Ireland in their stance and approach to international affairs. There's really not much we would have ever had in common with them. The UK attitude to immigrants and other cultures has been built on a foundation of servitude and seeing other culutures as being sub-human. T

I think you have a valid point re low paid workers, but I think the main issue is people don't understand what the government can actually do. You don't have a passport? How am I getting you on a plane to somewhere? The answer is I can't. Lose your passport, you're here forever. That's the truth.

detention centres until their applications are processed. None of this free to roam around and do as you please. And I don't care if that costs money. So does the current policy and we need something that is a deterrent to the endless arrival of hundreds each week.

I'm afraid you are totally incorrect here, applicants are not asked anything about their attitudes to norms in Irish society as part of their interview.

The Asylum interview assesses whether an applicant is eligible for refugee status or permission to remain.

That analysis is based solely on what their circumstances are, what has happened to them, where they come from and what may happen to them if they are returned.

Attitudes to Irish society have no part of that analysis.

I have a close relative who actually does this job. There is an incredible amount of misinformation and ignorance about this topic not only in this thread, but over all social media in general.

Talk about a waste of time - hard to imagine getting much job satisfaction out of it considering, to the public at least, that these assessments really do nothing in the greater scheme of things.

The department and office that deals with this might as well be replaced with the smiley button thing at the end of the Lidl checkout.

When I think back to the Apollo house occupation, I don't recall the govt looking in to buying even 1 property to accommodate the homeless people in that building,maybe they should've pitched up along the canal instead.

You should have a read up on Britain's history. Pretty much every where they jave been their tactics have been very similar. Here's on Article on their actions in Kenya.

As for us speaking English. There is a reason we speak English and not Irish, this probably has a lot to do with it.

The first British Law enacted in Ireland which specifically banned the use of the Irish language was Article III of The Statute of Kilkenny from 1367 which made it illegal for English colonists in Ireland to speak the Irish language and for the native Irish to speak their language when interacting with them.

This was followed in 1537 with The Statute of Ireland – An Act for the English Order Habit and Language that prohibited the use of the Irish language in the Irish Parliament. In 1541, further legislation was passed which banned the use of Irish in the areas of Ireland then under English rule.

The Administration of Justice (Language) Act (Ireland) was passed by the Irish Parliament in 1737. The Act not only forbids the speaking of Irish within the courtroom, it also prohibits the completion of legal documentation in Irish and imposes a financial penalty of £20 each time Irish is spoken in court in contravention of the law.

Aa for more recent, all you need to do is look at both countries views on the EU to realise how much different we are.