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Heavyweight Boxing

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,111 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Serious knocks? It wasn’t George Foreman hitting him tonight. And he pretty much did go down, and then saved by the bell with 60-70 seconds to recover



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,111 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Edit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,111 ✭✭✭✭walshb




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,111 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I had it 5-3 after 8 to Usyk. Then Usyk won 9-12 inclusive

    Post edited by walshb on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    Id have serious concerns about Fury's punch resistance after tonight.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,333 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I was referring to his career in general as opposed to just this fight, e.g taking Wilder's best punch and getting back up. But even in tonight's fight although he looked seriously rocked by that onslaught by Usyk, he didn't go down, and that couldn't be said of every boxer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,353 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    So much for my prediction, Usyk has tge heart of a lion. Why did the ref step in and give Fury a count, he didn't go down. I thought either ref should stop the fight or allow Usyk to continue the punishment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,111 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    He didn’t go down because the ropes saved him, and also, he wasn’t being hit by a real puncher.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,008 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    the corner kept him up a count was the correct decision



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,276 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    aw what a fight lads Usyk is an absolute hero!! Fury hadn’t much belief and showed it from the start. Very bad form calling the result cos of the war in Ukraine.
    Usyk, what a guy. All Time Great



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,111 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Exactly. Fury fought like the guy 30 lbs lighter and 5 inches shorter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭GHendrix


    I wasn’t a fan of Fury’s tactics last night. I was surprised he fought on the back foot, didn’t clinch more etc. Maybe the conditioning is getting too hard.

    I do think Fury is a fighter in decline. He’s still great but he hasn’t exactly looked after himself over the years and that will hurt him more as he ages.

    He should take the rematch but be more aggressive and keep moving forward and he might have more success. If he loses the rematch, probably best to call it a day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭ebbsy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Furys tactics where fine, he was never going to chase Usyk

    Usyk was having the harder evening up till round 9, Yes Usyk had won round but Fury was having more success than anyone had at heavy weight & had really hurt him a few time

    Then the big **** changed the fight , I'll have to watch it again but was it a case of Fury being lazy that got him caught with that punch he wad standing square ,

    Good fight rematch tactics will be interesting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,111 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    You were never gonna score it for Usyk unless he hammered Fury. Seriously, take off the rose-tinted gypsy king glasses.

    Usyk was on front-foot all night making the fight and bringing the fight to Fury. He even said what he’d do. “Not going to leave you alone,” and he didn’t leave him alone.

    Usyk won 8-9 rds on desire, punching, and will to win

    He also had Fury practically gone in rd 9. And in the most important rounds, the championship rounds, he poured it on.

    “No man born from his mother” beats me.. so satisfying that loss after listening to that gick



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,008 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    rose tinted glasses? You are the one scoring a tight split decision 117-110 are you not?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,111 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    117-10… no issue it being closer than this, due to some difficult to score rds; but overall no way Fury won that. And many many people saying same. Many disagree that it could be even close to split

    Fury lost, and then whinged after it. And for the behaviour at weigh in and immediately after (effing and blinding Usyk), I’m delighted he lost.

    Lost to a “blown up middleweight.” Brilliant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,008 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    closer than that? That scoring is way off, so no point in you talking about fury bias when your anti fury bias allowed you produce that 😂

    The official judges are what's important not the internet brigade, fury lost but as I said before the cards it was either a draw or a very tight split decision, the 10-8 won the fight, without that usyk loses.

    You read way too much into what fury says, he doesn't know himself what he is spouting half the time, at the end he was a decent sport and congratulated usyk you take the pre fight guff as real.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,111 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    What scoring is way off? 9 rds to 3 I scored it Usyk, with a 10-8. No problem 116-111 or 115-112, as some tight rds. Tight rds for me were deserved by the man pushing the fight.. it’s not rocket science, Cyrus

    Maybe you don’t realize, but vast majority folks scored for Usyk. Likely by scores similar to above, unless you want to dispute that?

    you’re just sick he lost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 818 ✭✭✭reclose


    Great fight. Really intriguing watch.
    After the first 3 rounds I was thinking Usyk has this. Then Fury adjusted and it was looking like he was about to dominate the rest of the fight.
    Then Usyk got back into the fight.

    I stopped scoring during the fight but it definitely felt like Usyk had won by a couple of rounds.

    Can anyone suggest why Fury stopped with the tactics that turned the fight in his favour from rounds 4-6 approx.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,008 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    one thing I will say tho, while I think fury could beat usyk in a rematch with different tactics I think a fight against aj is closer than I thought before his punch resistance isn't there any more it seems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 818 ✭✭✭reclose


    Did he ever have great punch resistance though? He has been down a good few times before Wilder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,008 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    I am disappointed he lost but you claiming bias when you scored it so one sided is nonsense, you are just delighted usyk won.

    I'm not interested in arm chair scores when the official score cards are there to see.

    Also fury needs his old man out of his corner, sugar must have been ready to blow!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,008 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,008 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    he had but not flailing around like he was in the 9th and usyk isn't a big puncher at hw



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,111 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Said it many times. Fury been rocked/dropped and wobbled several times. He does not take a good shot. Yes, he has gotten up, but good shots really have affected him.

    His offense last night was weak, inconsistent and sloppy. Yes, he had moments, and he did bother Usyk, but never badly bothered him, and could not sustain his success. Usyk, as he always does, adjusts, adapts and resets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,111 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    So if you’re not interested in armchair scores, why question mine? If I give you 115-112 (which I have agreed is fine), and I could score it that on second viewing, would that score not be a nonsense?

    Friend a mine, Fury fan had Usyk 98-91 I think after 10 rds.

    Even forgetting 10-9 must system. 36 mins last night, and anyone who doesn’t see Usyk as a clear winner hasn’t a scooby, or is just too far up Fury’s hole



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,008 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    so the professional judges haven't a scooby? You are putting yourself in the same category as the lads wondering why the ref counted in the 9th 😂

    I'm questioning yours are you are a self appointed expert



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,111 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I was the first one to explain the referee was right in rd 9

    Yes, anyone scoring the fight for Fury (pro judges) included haven’t a scooby. No way he won it. And, on this I am very much in the majority.

    Have a beer, Cyrus and enjoy last day PL, drowning in pity..🤪



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,008 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    as I said I had it a draw, enjoy your day Walshb you must have gone to town on yourself when the score cards came in, at least you've dropped the false veneer of looking at it objectively your hate for fury shines like a beacon.



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