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So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,208 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Dang, beaten to it!

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,387 ✭✭✭corkie


    With the change from Twitter url to 'X', I have lost my history/recommendations of search words!

    As i am in here, might as well post this as a followup to a conversation in the government thread.

    76 million to scam you on X, using celebrities

    In recent months, X (formerly Twitter) has been flooded with ads using the image of public figures and media outlets. These redirect to web pages that offer false investments in cryptocurrencies where they steal personal data from users or encourage them to make a first investment.

    Michael Martin's beef with Social Media is his image was used in that as well. @jmcc

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,704 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,751 ✭✭✭✭L1011




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Oxo Moran


    Marathon bars ….



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I still call eir the pnt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,208 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭scottser


    'Semitic' is a dodgy, now redundant 80 year old linguistic analytical term. It's only use now is by hysterical zionists to convey how offended they are when it's pointed out they are committing genocide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭scottser




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭jmcc


    FF also tried to use Social Media to promote its candidate in the Dublin Bay South bye-election. FF's "Deirdre Of The Sorrows" SM campaign is memorable for all the wrong reasons. I think that a lot of old school politicians like Martin hate Social Media because people can talk to other people without the interruption of RTE or the media. That means that the usual gatekeepers and dictators of public opinion are largely eliminated.

    Social Media represents a loss of control for these politicians and they hate that. Musk's purchase of Twitter/X and the removal of a lot of the Left-leaning content moderation types has upset a lot of people. It has also made it more advertising driven and scammers will take advantage of any opportunity. Previously, some of these zelebrity "endorsement" scams were on Facebook and other websites.

    Regards…jmcc



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


     Musk's purchase of Twitter/X and the removal of a lot of the Left-leaning content moderation types has upset a lot of people

    The fact that it is now absolutely rampantly filled with antisemitism and racism is something somewhat reasonable to be upset about. He didn't remove "left-leaning content moderation" he just removed content moderation.

    Also calling something whose advertising revenue has completely cratered "more advertising driven" seems a bit at odds with reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,208 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Bullshit

    Hatred of Jews is still very much a thing, whatever you call it, and a race of people are not responsible for the actions of a government.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,208 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Absolute crap

    Twitter/X has turned into a cesspit of white supremacist hatred under Musk and he's perfectly fine with that. Free speech my arse.

    Meanwhile advertisers (actual businesses with a brand to protect, not scammers) are fleeing in their droves.

    Mr Genius Business Model strikes again.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    The mainstream media no longer use tweets or what’s trending on Twitter as a barometer for stories. And arguments/flame wars between journos, politicians, celebrities etc. won’t be the basis of articles either anymore. Thank God. I doubt we’d ever see the same with discord, mastodon etc.

    Musk thought he could recreate 4chan on Twitter and it would automatically get the same coverage that Twitter did. ‘Libtards’ would be getting ‘owned’ everyday the world would be set right, according to his views anyway. Bit of a miscalculation.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It always had many of those tweets but some of them were filtered so that many people would not see them. (A kind of filter bubble that showed people only what they wanted to see.) Musk's attitude to free speech (in terms of The First Amendment to the US constiution) is quite different to that of the pre-Musk management.

    When Musk took over Twitter, the media filled with opinions from technology journalists who knew very little about Technology or business explaining why Twitter would fall over within days and that Mastodon was the next big thing and people would migrate to Mastodon. It was quite a shock when people didn't migrate in huge numbers and leave Twitter/X empty.

    Twitter/X is still there and the claims of its demise, so far, have been wrong. The legacy media still uses it despite it being Musk's business now. It has a critical mass of users so it makes sense for businesses to advertise there if there is a return on their advertising spend.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,392 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I

    Musk has zero regard for free speech and anyone who posts that hasnt been following the thread and the numerous documented examples of Musk using Twitter to silence and ghost people and accounts who are on opposite side ideologically to him.

    To wave that away as a 'very different attitude' is a blatant deception. Yeah the difference is he is a fascist racist bully who makes the rules up as he goes along.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭jmcc


    His business, his rules. There's no way that it will satisfy everyone. The advantage of Mastodon is that anyone can set up a node. They inevitably run into similar issues on determining the rules for their node. There have been incidences of accounts being banned on Mastodon nodes too.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,392 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Hold on a second there.

    You're gone from a "very different attitude" to free speech to "his business, his rules".

    You are contradicting yourself from post to post. Just as Musk's actions contradict the nonsense he spouts about free speech which seem to have duped people who should know better and make a mockery of them.

    It's not about satisfying everyone, it is about using his platform as a bully pedestal, all the while lying about doing so out of some regard for free speech. He doesn't and don't pretend otherwise. It is just a lie he comes out with as cover for the racist, fascist crap he peddles.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    @jmcc yes, Twitter is still there and still has tens of millions of daily active users but so does Reddit and how many other sites that nobody cares about. Musk destroyed the relevancy of Twitter in one flew swoop.
    It will never be relevant again. We’ll never see another metoo or Black Lives Matter and we will be the worse for it.
    I watched January 6 unfold on Twitter. What platform will do that in the future?
    Musk is a shameless self-publicist but the spotlight will go off him soon.

    His cronies have huge investments Tesla so they won’t yank him until they have time to cash out. Give him his 56 billion dollars, offload their shares and watch all his fanboys get burnt. (My hypothesis anyway)

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It might appear as a contradiction but it is not. He has a different attitude to free speech than the previous management and it is generally more free speech orientated. The previous management seemed to focus more on the "right" to be offended and keeping users, and former employees, in a perpetual child-like state where no opposing view would breach the barrier of their filter bubbles.

    It is still his business and he can and does act personally. It is also a very different Twitter/X to the old version. The upcoming US presidential camapaigns and election are going to cause some fireworks and X management will be hoping to monetise the outrage from all sides. In simpler terms, Musk and X are probably hoping to monetise the demand of users to be offended, those users tweeting about being offended and others disagreeing. Disagreement, rather than agreement, generates traffic and advertising for X.

    Regards…jmcc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,392 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It is not more free speech orientated, as already pointed out to you and documented multiple times on this thread.

    He is a racist fascist troll and his agenda is enabling that. He is the one in the perpetual child like state acting on impulseansd "its my ball" rules. Adults have rules and processes that are documented and followed.

    Dressing that up as in any way pro free speech is falling for his lies and judging him by his publicity not his actual actions.

    Multiple posters have pointed out to you desertion by reputable brands and advertisers - something entirely predictable.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,720 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Free speech absolutist who bans journalists en masse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    It's only free speech if you agree with what I say free speech is!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,914 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    "it is generally more free speech orientated. "

    Just absolute ignorant nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Nothing screams free speech like getting the Saudis to invest (after you made a stupid stoner inspired offer while off your tits on Ketamine and then having to be forced to make good on the offer).

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-01/musk-s-twitter-investors-include-saudi-prince-dorsey-and-qatar



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,208 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It is a business and business people invest. Some of the stuff that came out about the previous management wasn't impressive and the level of bots was one of the things that the previous management were reluctant to disclose. Free speech encourages disagreement. Disagreement creates traffic. Traffic can generally be monetised.

    It isn't a battle between Left and Right, communists and facists or even free speech and groupthink. Despite all the predictions of Twitter/X's demise, it is still there. Mastodon hasn't replaced it. Mastodon is a hobbyist network with a lot in comment with Fidonet of the 1980s and 1990s dialup Bulletin Board Systems era. Some of the other would-be competitors barely got off the ground. Even Facebook/Meta is trying to get in on the same market with Threads. The main market for X is the USA and it is still a significant player. As long as it has users generating content that can be monetised, it will remain a player. That will continue to upset people who think that they know better than Musk and his investors.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭jmcc


    You could always start your own social media service for like-minded people. Setting up a Mastodon node is quite cheap. The problems, naturally, are funding it and getting users.

    X already has a critical mass of users and the switching cost of someone moving to another social networking service like Mastondon is worse than a simple subscription switch because people have built up networks of followers and people whom they follow. If they don't switch too then the value of that new social network is not so high for that person who wants to switch. X will lose some users but it will also gain users. As this is a presidential election year in the US, it is likely to gain users. All social networking services are going to be competing for a slice of that traffic.

    Regards…jmcc

    Post edited by jmcc on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭crusd


    “Free speech free speech free speech…his business his rules”

    Clown



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,720 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    That will continue to upset people who think that they know better than Musk and his investors.

    Musk knew better than Musk and his investors if his legal fight to get out of the deal was anything to go by. His instinct was correct seeing as Twitter has lost the bulk of its value (71% by Jan-2024).



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