Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Why is it OTT? Is it not parents jobs to be weary of any large group of men? no matter the nationality? Imo only parents would understand this.

No not "everything" but i can see how some would be fearful of a crowd of chancers moving in next door.

Statistics would tell you that highest proportion of sexual assault/violence is from partners, not that the risk is necessarily higher given that people spend most amount of time with partners versus very little time next to random homeless or immigrants camping out on the streets.

It is an incorrect use of statistics to compare safety of 1 encounter vs another in this instance. (What is the risk criteria? Are you comparing risk proportional to time or just absolute risk at a population level?)

Lies, damned lies and statistics. You can frame them to prove or disprove anything if you twist it enough.

I should try shouting this at immigration control in Singapore or some other such country I desire to enter without passport.

"You have done nothing to deserve being born in a wealthy, safe, tolerant country. Nothing. It is no achievement of yours — just pure fortune. Now bloody well let me in"

I don't think it would go down to well.

You see the problem is that none of this selfless sacrifice is going to be reciprocated. Make no mistake. You don't seem to appreciate human nature.

Just putting this idea out there. Has anyone thought maybe Ireland and the UK should join up and set up a border force to protect the seas around the two islands from migrant boats entering? We need to stop the flow passing through the UK into the North then into the Republic. UK aren't getting much assistance from France. Maybe we should step in if it benefits us no?

Again. Have I written something accidentally in invisible ink or are people genuinely just unable to read any post advocating compassion or understanding for migrants without thinking it means "let them all in"?

You say I don't appreciate human nature. Why do you say that? Where in my post did I say that the privilege of being born in a wealthy country means that we should let migrants just because they didn't have that privilege?

The responses to my posts on this really are an interesting demonstration of how people get so entrenched on this topic that rather than engage with the points actually being made, they engage with some un-made point that they have completely inferred.

You're some absolute bluffer. Jesus christ the mental gymnastics ye'll stoop to

Thousands of vulnerable teenage girls were raped in Rochdale alone by Pakistani gangs and nothing was done about it due to fears of being called a racist. Something like that can never be allowed to happen again.

Are you not aware of this issue or just prefer to ignore it?

Not long ago a young Irish woman lost her life in broad day light, on the banks of another canal, to a man who had been welcomed to our shores. The fear of Irish mothers regarding the safety of their children is understandable. We already have plenty of our own scumbags and nutjobs.

It stands to reason that some percentage of the men arriving in Ireland and setting up camp are those who you wouldn't want around your young daughters. If you had a daughter of 12 or 13 would you want her walking home from school on her own past a migrant encampment full of young men who are total strangers in your community?

Civil war? Ffs.

Everyone involved in the grooming scandal in Rochdale was either a first or second generation immigrant from Pakistan. Many of the people claiming Asylum in Ireland are Pakistanis who have been rejected for Asylum in the UK and other countries. If we allow a large number of Pakistanis to settle here, we may well have similar issues here so I think it is relevant.

Especially as you were sneering at the legitimate concerns of another poster. You would have been the same apologist saying that the large scale abuse of white girls by Pakistani men was nothing to worry about which ultimately allowed that abuse to continue even to this day.