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2024 F1 General Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,635 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I refined the position in my last post. Either his level of ability has changed or he can't reach his level of ability anymore, or maybe he just can't adapt to the cars anymore.

    What other possibilities are there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,140 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    That may be true in some cases, but there are a lot more possibilities, both physical and mental. It's normal for professionals in all sports to have good and bad periods. Some manage to regain their form, some don't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,017 ✭✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Watching the Monaco historique race, it's some shambles of a race



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Re. Ricciardo, it's possible that he has a fundamental issue with adapting to new cars. Took him a while to get used to the Renault, he never really got to grips with the McLaren, and he might have a flaw with ground effect too.

    Or it could be just that he's ending his career and it doesn't mean as much subconsciously as when he was in his early 20s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,281 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Its race week. Emilia Romagna GP.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,167 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Ye I think that too. Maybe you just can't brake as late and as hard in these ground effect cars or at least Daniel can't anyway. Maybe Danieks driving style just does not work with these ground effect F1 cars like it did on the more aerodynamic wing type F1 effect cars.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭oceanman


    true, and i would give some young driver a chance at getting a seat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Alex Albon has signed a long term deal with Williams. I'm a little surprised here, I thought he'd have been looking for a bump up to a higher placed team.

    https://x.com/WilliamsRacing/status/1790668568826155053



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    I was thinking, maybe hoping, he would get a shot at the Merc seat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,047 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Not sure there is a higher place team to go to. He got badly burned at Red Bull trying to pick up Max's scraps so not much he can achieve there. I reckon the deal with Sainz to Mercedes Benz is all but signed. Alonso is staying at Aston Martin, Stroll would have to be permanently incapacitated before that seat came available, McLaren have their drivers secured. Cash ATM or whatever they're called, Alpine Sauber and Haas are roughly at the same level now but Williams probably still has the most potential to climb.

    Williams have come to a bump in the road, it'd be very short sighted to think they will never overcome that. Look at McLaren.

    This too shall pass.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Id say he tried but there aren’t really any options for him at teams that are much further up the grid. Sainz is ahead of him in the pecking order.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,635 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah, hope the shine wears off Sainz in a few years and they need a change. Not a great option but the other options weren't great either. It's a medum-long shot at a Mercedes drive, which isn't a bad bet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    Albon didnt get the Merc seat now, he never will. He seems committed to Williams, and now he is on paper too.

    The dominoes start falling 1 by 1.

    As it stands:

    Redbull: Max (end of 2028 season), TBC

    Mercedes: Russell (end of 2025 season), TBC

    Ferrari: Charles and Hamilton (both on multi-year contracts, so at least till end of 2026 season)

    Aston Martin: Stroll (who knows), Alonso (at least till end of 2026 season)

    McLaren: Lando (multi-year, at least past 2025 season), Piastri (end of 2026 season)

    Alpine: TBC, TBC

    Williams: Albon (at least end of 2026 season), TBC

    Haas: TBC, TBC

    Stake F1 (Audi soon): Nico Hulkenberg, TBC

    Visa RB: TBC, TBC

    Thats half the seats still to be confirmed.

    Current drivers still needing seats from top to bottom according to current championship points (excl Bearman, although can see him getting Hulkenberg's seat at Haas):

    Perez

    Sainz

    Tsunoda

    Ricciardo

    Ocon

    Magnussen

    Guanyu

    Gasly

    Bottas

    Sargeant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Sargent and Zhou are, in my mind anyway, gone at end of season. Bottas and Magnusson must be clinging on too depending on other moves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    I tend to agree. And its hard to see past Perez at Redbull and Sainz at Merc, top 2 remaining drivers in top 2 seats.

    But with Sainz's dad's links to Audi, and them needing to make a statement signing, its possible he goes there. Will just be a wasted year there next year.

    Bottas show some glimpses sometimes, especially in qualifying, but could be gone too. Popular guy though. Any of the rest can be gone too, but for someone to replace them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 291 ✭✭jv2000


    I reckon the only danger to Gasly or Ocon would be if Alpine/Renault decide to pull out of F1 again… No signs of that anytime soon. Both good drivers and French, surprised they have not been confirmed yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,047 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Someone will always keep Enstone running, Andretti are standing by

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,635 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Bottas is a great qualifier. Its the strongest part of his game. He was always closer to Hamilton in quali than in the actual race. He matched within a tenth, and even beat Hamilton at a surprising rate in quali and that kept the hope alive if I remember correctly.

    I'm not commenting on whether or not he should keep his seat, just the fact that he's always been a better qualifier than a racer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭Ted222


    I’d have some confidence in Vowles’ ability to restore Williams to at least a mid-ranking team. It would be an interesting project to be part of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,047 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Some excellent news. Irish up and coming Alex Dunne has been signed into the McLaren driver development programme.

    This too shall pass.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I saw this comment from Albon..

    You have to assume if he was talking to multiple teams then it was the likes of Haas and Alpine, and not Merc or Red Bull...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,635 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    That's probably what I'd tell myself if I was in his position. He might even be right. I wouldn't begrudge Williams or Albon success. He seems like a decent guy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    I think the article on the F1 app mentioned RedBull had an option on him for 2026, so very possible he spoke to them also. His contract with Williams was until end of 2025 season, seems both sides decided better to lock it down now for longer term than play the waiting game to see who goes where next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,047 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Ron Dennis was on BBC Hardtalk recently. Video is on the BBC news channel or iPlayer in the UK.

    Audio is available worldwide on podcast.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Oh I'm a big fan of his. Really hope Williams get a good car under him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Max not happy with the car in FP1 or FP2, plus a trip into the gravel in the latter. Could be an interesting race unless they manage to sort the car. Is Newey there this weekend I wonder?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    HUge crash in f2 at start



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭Hijpo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,242 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Yeah but it is not to say they were speaking to him 🤣



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭NinjaTruncs


    If Perez doesn't sort out his form he could be in trouble getting a renewal on his contract. Sainz would have to be a better option for the team, especially if Max was to leave. Sainz should be capable of leading the team, Perez not so much.

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