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Importing from the UK - definitive guide (Q and A)

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    #4802
    KillerShamrock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭KillerShamrock


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122088267#Comment_122088267

    And where ya there with them or did they just go to the dealer check it out and let you know



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    #4803
    Bogwoppit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122088596#Comment_122088596

    I was there at the time.



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    #4804
    cavan4sam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭cavan4sam


    Is the free mot check of ukgov accurate with miles and would it show up if a car was hackney/taxi or what check do I need for that as the model I'm looking at are ofter used for taxi... 58 plate superb



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    #4805
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122090316#Comment_122090316

    Theres no record for Taxi MOT’s as its the local council that carries them out as far as I know.



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    #4806
    cavan4sam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭cavan4sam


    Sorry I meant if it had been used as a taxi will that show up on a report?



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    #4807
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122090428#Comment_122090428

    On a paid history check yes. Not the free MOT check



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    #4808
    Ekavo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭Ekavo


    Does anyone know how to find a car’s official CO2 emissions? Is it listed on the V5?

    Thanks!



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    #4809
    Ekavo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭Ekavo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122090813#Comment_122090813

    found the answer, it’s on the V5



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    #4810
    dar-griff222
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 ✭dar-griff222


    In a bit of a confusing situation here, hoping someone can make sense of it for me.

    I bought a vintage non-runner/rolling shell from the north last month under the presumption it had been registered there since 2020 and I wouldn't have to worry about duty/vat. The car was delivered but driver forgot to leave the logbook. I received it this week by post but last registration is actually in Wales. Far as I can tell the car was SORN'd in Wales and then sold to the North and never reregistered.

    I suppose my question is, how can I navigate customs on a shell bought from the North but registered to the UK?



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    #4811
    coolshoes47
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 ✭coolshoes47


    Does anyone know what VRT I can expect on a motorhome that I'm bringing down from NI?

    I have proof that it was there before 01st January 2021. I'm paying €18500, but they'll calculate VRT on the OMSP in ROI,

    It's a 2002 6 berth, 60k miles. I suppose the question is, what are they likely to consider as the OMSP? Done Deal isn't really



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    #4812
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,832 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Is there a flat rate for campers/ motorhomes?

    Not your ornery onager



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    #4813
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,138 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    So, if you import a qualifying car from NI (so no VAT or import duty), do you not have to go through the full complicated customs declaration online like when importing from mainland UK?

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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    #4814
    reubenreuben
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122083020#Comment_122083020

    So why don't they say 3 months instead of the vague 'reasonable time' ?

    It's like they think everyone's on the make when most just want a bit of car choice.



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    #4815
    positron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭positron


    Isn't there additional clauses to quality for this "reasonable time" of private ownership?

    An example:

    An electric car for sale in NI, privately.

    I checked the REG from ad thru various sites like MOT etc and it shows it was originally registered in the UK.

    Last MOT was in northern Ireland, and the current V5C was issue on say 1st April 2023.

    According to this page: https://www.revenue.ie/en/vrt/registration-of-imported-used-vehicles/registering-vehicles-from-ni.aspx

    Vehicles that were moved to NI prior to 1 May 2023 will also be subject to additional VAT requirements if imported into the State. These additional requirements must be completed prior to presenting the vehicle for registration.

    So this particular car, even if it's a private sale, will attract 23% VAT (and no VRT because it's electric and under certain thresold).

    Did I get this right?



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    #4816
    mcw92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭mcw92


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122135976#Comment_122135976

    Is that only for ones sold prior to the May 1st change? See here

    Registering vehicles bought by NI dealers before 01 May 2023 and sold before 01 May 2024

    I'd say give them a call to make sure.

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/vrt/registration-of-imported-used-vehicles/vehicles-imported-from-gb-routed-through-ni.aspx



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    #4817
    billgibney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭billgibney


    Its a totally new ballgame for all cars from the 1st of May 24

    Basically once the car is in use up north for at least 3 months you can import without VAT



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    #4818
    positron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭positron


    But do they (private or dealer) who imports the car from UK to NI require to pay some tax under the new system there? Or is this a genuine Brexit benefit opportunity to NI folks?



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    #4819
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    I think the dealers up there can no longer use the VAT margin scheme and have to pay VAT on the full sales price of their cars. The cars are basically treated as imports from UK to NI

    NI is a fairly limited market and is quite a bit more expensive than mainland UK. And even without the VAT implications a lot of cars are just uneconomical to import these days. Anything pre 2015 diesel is gone because of Nox, and anything relatively high in Co2 isn’t ideal either because of WLTP. I can’t see the recent VAT changes having much of an effect here on supply.



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    #4820
    cavan4sam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭cavan4sam


    So a car imported into ni in approx Jan 22 wud only be liable for vrt? Or is it vrt and customs? But no vat



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    #4821
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122139545#Comment_122139545

    VRT



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    #4822
    sirdeclan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭sirdeclan


    So what if you have someone living in NI import a vehicle from the UK now, reregister it in NI and keep if for say 3 months. Can they then sell it to a ROI resident who can then import it to ROI say later this year. Does the new rules say that there is no 23%VAT or 10% Customs as it was registered in NI for a reasonable period of time? Does that work?



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    #4823
    mcw92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭mcw92


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122145182#Comment_122145182

    In theory, yes.



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    #4824
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122145182#Comment_122145182

    The car needs to have been in private use. So judging by Revenues website they would need to at least MOT the car up there.



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    #4825
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,138 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122135195#Comment_122135195

    Anyone?

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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    #4826
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122145662#Comment_122145662

    Nope, importing a genuine NI car hasn’t changed. Its just VRT as normal.



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    #4827
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,138 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122145796#Comment_122145796

    So no revenue online portal at all? Just go straight to NCTS website to make VRT appointment and pay them the VRT, show all paperwork and you get your Irish reg? If so it would be very tempting to just sell my car to someone in NI and buy it back after they MOT it and a "reasonable" period of time has passed.

    This paperwork is a pain and takes forever

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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    #4828
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122145880#Comment_122145880

    Is this the one you tried to declare yourself? Remember I told you you need to pay a professional to do it. It literally takes my customs broker 5 minutes and he sends me the customs document for VRT. It’s completely painless.



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    #4829
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,138 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122146121#Comment_122146121

    The process taking a lot of time might turn out to be a blessing in disguise 😁

    So the answer to my question is yes then? None of this red tape for NI cars, straight to paying the VRT in the NCTS office?

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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    #4830
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122146128#Comment_122146128

    Yeah, but your car is on the VRT system now so your plan of ‘selling’ it back up North probably isn’t going to work, and you’ll also have to pay late fees from the day you originally presented it for VRT. Assuming you have already presented it? Even the fact you’ve attempted to declare it to customs may throw up some red flags. Probably not, but there’s always a chance.



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    #4831
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,138 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122146159#Comment_122146159

    Reg will be different though, it will get a NI reg if registered up north. And no, haven't had VRT appointment yet. Booked it in the day I brought it home, but had to postpone the appointment several times because of delays with the import procedure.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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