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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Agree, you can pick up a old 4*4 that can't pass the test for 1000 to 2000. And the biggest benefit is its water proof. Keep the calf nuts and fencing gear, nice and dry



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,157 ✭✭✭straight


    Ya, I usually pay most attention to the production index too. It's just something I heard recently about proven bulls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Jeeps only work on good land, nobody likes getting stuck too often.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,252 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Only bad drivers get stuck. Most important thing if you're buying a jeep is the 4wd works



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Do we really need a quad or something to bring in the cows in most irish setups.1 km would would be the very most alot of herds here would have to walk.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭cosatron


    imo, majority of farmers are gone lazy in terms of fitness and well being. no harm at all to go get the cows by foot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,711 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Had the Monty bull out with the cows and the fields are big open silage fields. The bull is gone quare so I had no option but to use a cabbed MF240 I have to bring in the cows. The fields were the furthest from the yard. I was safer and faster using the 240 to get the cows. So to answer do we really need? I'd go yes. Their option to use should be available to whoever goes for stock.

    (Have the factory agent rang up to collect bull since last wednesday. But it seems he's having trouble booking him in. Am tb testing this wednesday and I'm not sure how he'll be got in a crush. ) Took him away from the cows yesterday and put him back in bull house. Lim bull now out with cows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Ha Ha ha smart ass.

    Seriously, I'll put it differently for you, a jeep isn't good around here where you've to leave it on the roadway half the year or you're making tracks around a field.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,711 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    A smaller lighter version. Something like a kei truck might be a good compromise. Option there to put on low ground pressure tyres.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,252 ✭✭✭✭whelan2




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,252 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Jeep is very handy. You dont get wet, safer for kids to drive than a quad and a good radio.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,711 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    This would be his third season. So think he was 18 months when he arrived.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭atlantic mist


    id leave bull in pen until loading for factory, once you explain to vet hes cross and going to factory i dont see any issue (vets will put safety first, tb skin test is not an accurate measurement, NI vets questioning relevance anymore), when hell be hanging they can view him if any doubt….

    can you not put monty cross on calf cards instead of friesianx? how did your calf sales go in the end?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,711 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    When they are by the montbeliarde the cards are mox. It's just if there's back breeding of monty and then back to friesian it's frx. The only way to negate that with both fr and mo is to use a monty bull on a friesian cow and then use that bull calf/stock bull for breeding.

    Calf sales went ok. The very start was the worst but picked up as it went on. Mox bulls probably averaged 120 overall. The last of them were hitting 150 euro no problem and out of heifers. I got pole axed at the very start with a pen of three in a mart making 55 each. Learned after that. Lims I didn't break the 300 but got to 290. Averaged I'd say 240 overall. Main thing I'm still selling and I'm not overly disheartned selling calves. But there are more going breeding this way dairy in the southeast so I'm getting competition from them now too. A local montbeliarde heifer sale had big interest and sale of stock. The same breeder had friesians in the mart and barely sold. Monty were making 2k Fr were lucky making 1k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    I'm not disagreeing with you but the general use of the terms "good" and "bad" grass as we are often led to believe, is a bit ironic in this context.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,711 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Not sure if you've seen this. Claims Irish made with high ground clearance and already lithium battery with a 6 year warranty with ability to road register with road kit. 10k seems dear. But the gator versions are looking for 30k.

    You'd imagine safer than a quad for any workers and benefit there for any elderly of ease of access to drive. Looks like it'd be simple to change for wider agricultural rims and tyres too.

    http://donedeal.ie/quads-for-sale/hdk-electric-utility-vehicle-golf-buggy-cart/33649509



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,314 ✭✭✭alps


    Saw it at the Dairy show in Millstreet. It's the battery is Irish made (even though I reckon its packaged in a box with charger etc in Ireland)

    ThThe machine is US designed, made in China. It's a "lifted" golf cart.

    I'd be tempted at the concept of having just a battery and motor as the breakable parts, very easy access...wouldn't worry at all about the weather bitas used to quads.

    Comes in at 12k+, but when you see perfectly good golf carts coming off hire for 2k...hmmm

    The guy in Galway selling this also sells an electric quad. It's a big powerful machine selling around 13k...expensive..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭ginger22


    If you had a cow bulling on the day of the test he will follow her into the crush.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Kerry2021


    For those of you who do just go on foot to bring in the cows, how do ye generally manage with cross bulls? I’d be thinking I’d be dead 100 times over if I’d to go for the cows on foot. They came back into their paddock today while I was changing the fence, I had the bull sizing me up, the tractor was very far away and I did not like it! 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,690 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    collars here. Only a bull with the heifers, and I hired 2 young ones this year to go with them for 7 weeks after one round of ai. Be gone after that and I won’t have to worry about them



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,711 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    He's going to follow two cows up into the lorry tomorrow now hopefully. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭ginger22


    Why would you have a cross bull running with the cows. At the first sign of getting cranky get rid of him. There are lots of bulls for sale in Listowel mart every week.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    All hereford bull s here and to be fair their temperament has been excellent over the years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Kerry2021


    There was a bull here a few years ago and it was something else altogether how bad he was. Bringing the cows into the holding yard for milking was like a game of cat and mouse. The bull wouldn’t let me drive the cows in or anything, basically wouldn’t even let me walk down the yard. I think it got to the stage he’d no real interest in cows that were bulling and was more preoccupied with trying to kill me. Personally I wouldn’t see the logic in keeping a bull that ridiculously dangerous



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,252 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    He'd be gone here at the first instance of any of that crack. Tbh cows can be way worse than a bull as you'd always be wary of a bull but a cow can get you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    I'd agree fully on the zero tolerance for bills but I'd extend it to cows too. Unless the husbandry is poor such issues are usually highly heritable imho and better weeded out sooner than later.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,404 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Wouldnt be great pr for dairymaster, seen him on twitter ranting about wanting to put the tractor through his dairymaster parlour aswell



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,690 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    there’s a lad from cork that makes daily videos on tik tok with a dairy master. He gets awful bother with the removers, not an old machine either. Think he said it’s one of his biggest regrets buying a dairy master



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,157 ✭✭✭straight


    Funny, dairymaster salesman is on his way here in 10 mins.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,252 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Anyone i asked about dairymaster said avoid. They have a base close to me



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