Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

unfortunately Scotland - NI is even narrower than the English channel.

On a good day I suppose a dinghy could make it. Not a seafarer though, so cant be sure.

"they have a general election coming up, by jan 2025. Labour look set to win, and theyve promised to scrap the rwanda thing."

Wouldn't count on that.

Brexit happened due to immigration/asylum seekers, plain and simple. The Rwanda deal is allowing the UK to close their doors. It will be a very popular piece of legislation with a large percentage of the voters.

So, this will gain the Torries a lot of votes, and even if not enough to win, Labour will see how popular it is, and do a U turn on it.

2016 happened, we saw just how wrong polls can be, and how the voting majority of the UK have had enough.

right … not something we’d want to encourage and we certainly don’t have the navy to rescue people like the British and French have been for the last 10 years.

Yes, the Celtic sea of course. My bad.

May as well check the sausages as well while they are at it.

What has changed is the UKs Rwanda plan has activated.

The result is this new bullsht for us.

What needs to be done, to make the bullsht go away?

We need to fook a spanner in the works of UKs Rwanda plan.

That can be done by messing with:

• Rwandas govt
• The benefits of the Rwanda plan.

Rwanda has beneficial arrangements with the EU, an EU project of some €900m is ongoing there. That project, and more, can increase or stop depending on compliance.

The EU/France control the flow of migrants from Calais to UK. Again, that flow can rapidly increase or decrease. Yes theres a negative to us, in that a percentage will continue on to Irl, but the vast majority want to get to England, and its huge underground economy.

Also we should get the EU to lean on the ferry companies to request govt ID as a condition of travel, and provide Ireland with passenger manifests.

You're all welcome to run for elected office. Given the current lot are so bad and you lot are so awesome it'll be a walk in the park.

Absolutely true… our politicians are elected to serve and represent the needs and interests of their constituents and the Irish State as a whole.

We can absolutely have sympathy and empathy for the needs or plight of others, and we can absolutely do what we can to help - however that help should be proportionate to our ability/resources and never be at the cost of, or conflict with, the primary duties you mention.

Equally, as I've said before, our same politicians should take that duty and mandate to Europe and elsewhere and negotiate/lobby for Ireland's interests first and foremost. While compromise and deal-making is obviously key to achieving it, we should not sacrifice core positions for an "attaboy!" from our EU "friends" as is all too often the case now. As it stands, if a policy benefits Ireland, it's generally by coincidence not design. That's wrong and needs to change, rapidly!

Ireland is a country with a lot of fundamental domestic issues that successive Governments have failed to address, or actively made worse in the last decade. These issues are represented in every aspect of daily life - from the cost of your shopping, diesel fill, childcare, utility bills, housing (and the lack thereof!), healthcare (and the delays to get seen), crime, etc etc… they affect everyone to some degree.

I have enormous sympathy for people in other places who are (genuinely) affected by war, persecution, inequality and so on - HOWEVER I feel zero obligation to solve their problems, pay for them, or rehouse/support them in our country. We have our own problems to deal with, and adding to them by importing the problems/needs of others is just madness.

We've passed the point of return however. There's simply no way reverse or unwind it now. Now we're into damage control/limitation so as to reduce the long term impact on the citizens of this country and the next generations that will follow.

Putting Ireland and our needs first isn't a nationalistic, "far-right", or racist concept at this stage.. it's becoming a matter of self-preservation as our services and ability to provide ANY supports has been compromised by this nonsensical free-for-all that characterises our immigration "policy" at present.

I'll take it that you won't bother to run for election so. Just spend countless hours on boards complaining about our current politicians.

This could turn quite bitter. The EU certainly won't be supporting Ireland on this especially France because they won't want to set a precedent for Britain to return asylum seekers to France.

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2024/0429/1446232-ireland-uk-migration/?utm_source=xtremepush&utm_medium=web_push&utm_campaign=UK+Prime+Minister+Rishi+Sunak+has+said+he+is+%22not+interested%22+in+pursuing+a+deal+with+Ireland+on+returning+asylum+seekers+to+the+UK+%28xtremepush+%23113901474%29&utm_term=notification+%233426172484_915880312&utm_content=A

We're a free country and you're welcome to try and sort out this situation that will possibly destroy our country given our current useless politicians. It's all plain to everyone so it should be a landslide in any election. What's stopping you?

Europe as a whole needs a Rwanda like country

What a useless argument.

I wonder would moving IPAS to a border (or several) Border counties be useful? Accommodation in big barns all along the Border too. Dispersal to Dublin might be curtailed somewhat. Keep a satellite IPAS in Dublin near the airport.

Tent cities around the city centre of Dublin is ridiculous, although it may be deliberate for some reason.

I'm going off my head here so just throwing out something mad to keep me from sighing too much today. I know many views on my suggestions will be of the scoffing variety, but all suggestions welcome now anyway.

One of the bigger offshore islands would be a suitable IPA centre.

Bere Island is plenty big enough.

Nah, but I just won't vote for any of the current crowd who are imposing this on the country and telling us that it's all fine if only we plebs understood the laws and procedures.

Myself, I'll be looking for sensible independents who are prepared to represent the interests of us the public.

At least I know one sure fire solution to get the migrates to leave, we ask them nicely!!!

It's our trump card, we'll use it as a last resort

What's the north pole like this time of year ?

Declaration of war and still no interest in standing for election. We better hope we're never actually invaded or we're screwed. Unless we can defeat them with anonymous hot air in which case we'll crush them.

When you're elected you'll also have the army of civil servants. They're not some special breed apart.

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