Russian warship, go f**k yourself!

More talk nato members are going to enter ukraine(as individual countries) , I think nato done this in Syria,... created a 'safe zone' /buffer one..

If Ukraine loosed access to odessa its very bad for Europe.. Europe is loosing more access to north Africa and will need ukraine to flourish.

The proven reserves are great for them. But not enough to make much of a dent in Europe's demand. Nordstream alone was going to deliver 110 billion m3 per year.

If Ukraine ever does make it into the EU it's very hard to see them taking crimea with them. They don't seem to have the capacity to take back land from Russia bar some massive change that I can't see coming. The great offensive made up about 10miles and much of that ground has been lost again.

Coal and agriculture won't bring us positives in EU. Coal has to stay in the ground and they'll drive lots of farmers out of business in the EU.

Everything else was modest before and I see no reason why that would change.

But thats not quite the same thing as saying that Ukraine will be a pauper state when it joins the EU. None of the Ex-USSR states were great prospects when they joined either but look at them now…I remember being in Poland before they joined, and was back again a few years afterwards, no comparison!!! After they first joined, Poles flooded into the EU, especially England and Ireland, and quickly became indispensable to the extent when the UK stupidly voted for Brexit, and the Poles went back home to Poland, very few returned because there was plenty of employment in Poland then. Believe what you wish, but I think that Ukraine will be a great asset to the EU. As for the war aspect, do you think that as far as it goes, that's it as far as it goes for Ukraine? Because I for sure don't share that view. One way or another, Ukraine will reclaim all of its territory. All of it, its a matter of time. It took Afghans 10 years to reclaim Afghanistan, but they did it, and Ukraine will have more support than Afghanistan ever had. And it will not take 10 or even 5 years to do it either. Russians will never know peace in Ukraine.

How low can you get…. more anti Ukrainian Bullcrap from you Yosemite….I lived in that part of the world, (and especially Russia) it was common practice when at the doctors or in a hospital, you or your relatives would be given the prescription, and told go to the market and get the items listed. So, nothing low or underhand about giving medics cash, as you make it out to be. Have a good look at one of the Hospitals in St. Petersburg, and an infectious diseases hospital at that, and you will see what I mean. When you measure everything, you see relative to Ireland, especially in a war zone, as sure as hell, you will make mistakes.

Eastern European countries benefitted from the large surpluses generated by mainly Germany . Germany's surpluses won't be as strong into the future because heavy industries have been hit so hard without abundant cheap energy. What EU economy is currently generating large surpluses to Syphon off to Ukraine? Sort this out and then yeah we can absorb Ukraine without breaking stride.

No, not so much in the west, but for sure it's perfectly normal in Russian Culture, the very same culture that Ukraine is trying to escape from. None of which detracts from what I said about hospitals and doctors giving prescriptions to either the patients themselves or their relatives and friends to fulfil. I know, because I've gone to the medical markets and bazaars myself with prescriptions to be filled.

Oh, BTW, in a previous post (3692) I forgot to include the link to the St. Petersburg infectious diseases hospital. Here it is.

Perhaps you would care to comment on that?

I'm pretty sure that there's a specific thread here on Boards for immigration / migration other but related issues. Dito sprinters' breaking records. But I'm replying to comments on Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

A country is being illegally, wrongfully and brutally invaded in Europe, and you, a European make every effort to criticise that country and it's leadership. And make nothing but excuses for the invaders.

I'm well aware of what the situation in UKraine is. Its bloody dire, and no mistake about it, for sure. The situation has been bad for Ukraine since even before 2014. And it's not just Ukraine. it's any country that has had the misfortune to have sampled Putin's Russki Mir. So, what do Ukrainians do? Lie down and reward Putin for his ill-gotten gains? And allow him to commit genocide with the Ukrainian people? Because that is what he is planning, the total elimination of everything Ukrainian. their culture, history and their People Hè has already started on the cultural aspect of it by kidnapping hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian children and brainwashing them into accepting Russian culture. And death awaits thousands more. So yes, it's bad in Ukraine, but if they stop fighting, it will get many times worse. There are no choices, Putin has to be stopped once and for all. Now why don't you do an indepth article about just how bad it is for Russians, just for balance? Because I can tell you this much, ordinary Russians are paying a horrendous price for Putins mad dream, even if info is highly censored on the Russian side.

Yes Yosemite. Better not to post atall than put in the stuff you're supplying. The 'accuracy' you insist on sending in can be done without; if people want it they can go to the Russian propaganda sites.

That all really can be easily explained by companies greed in moving on mass to the most corrupt and most murderous country in the world instead of to Eastern Europe . That was supposed to be the next phase that manufacturers would have set up in Eastern Europe but they skipped it in favour of China..........purely for greed reasons. No other .China has nothing going for it except cheap labour. It is extremely resource poor

I have children, I wouldn't be advising any parents to let 18 year old join any army, even if the Russians were sailing in to bantry Bay. The most of people who have died in wars are in unmarked graves.

War weariness is a real thing. would think the best Ukraine can do, is have a stalemate situation on its Eastern border.

It's hard to see it happening that the EU would ever take this production back. If anything the goal is to push even more production outside of the EU.

Most countries recruit at 16/17. There was 16 year olds serving in the north here not so long ago. The average age English lads killed in Afghanistan was something like 22.

Yes that was the goal a global hegemony of joy peace love good will freedom of expression.................ohhhhh wait no no no ya it was DEFINITELY only the greed of big corporations that were behind that push it may be hard to see them take back manufacturing .but Ukraine and certain other countries in that region haven't got rid of there's yet and have the skill set. Most of the baltic countries and former users states also gave these skill sets but I actually think there going to take the Irish skilled jobs. If China doesn't change path then it's done as a country for the cheap manufacturing of consumer goods India Turkey Pakistan even larger parts of Africa could be used instead also would shorten our supply chain. There's change a coming an where everyone is going to sit when the dust settles nobody knows