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Meanwhile on the Roads...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    I'm just being lazy, I'll try and find it myself.

    EDIT: I see T Monk posted it above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,475 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    https://www.thejournal.ie/motorcyclist-dies-car-burnt-out-carlow-6363615-Apr2024/

    so someone kills a motorcyclist then burns the car out. the roads are getting so bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    No according to Pat Kenny this morning. Christ, I literally just turned on the radio in the car and it was still set to Newstalk after listening to OTB last night. There he was acknowledging the tragedy and reading out a couple of texts from listeners who noted the poor road design there… but it only lasted about 60 seconds before he neatly segway'd to reading texts from listeners who said too much road space was being given over to cyclists leaving drivers with very little space. Cue Pat launching into a monologue about how that's a very valid point and maybe we should be considering setting aside certain roads where cyclists can cycle safely and saying 'those are the roads you can use'. I had to slam the radio off at that point.

    What an absolute ****



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,475 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    he's a c**t. had to stop listening to him a few years ago because of this sh*t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭maisie45


    I am not taking this to PM, it was posted on this forum that I made insinuations in relation to a tragic accident, to me that is libellous.

    Another poster referred to the same research I referred to and his post is most likely still up.

    Again in response to a question about female cyclists in accidents with trucks I referred to research which found female cyclists unlike male cyclists tend not to break red lights, they stay on the inside of trucks when really its safer to get out in front of them.

    I made no reference to any recent tragedy and a mod appointed by Boards decided to make an accusation that I did. He conveniently deleted my post and has left that defamatory post up.

    If that post is not removed and the accusation made against me withdrawn I will take this matter further.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭maisie45


    I have taken screen shots of my posts this morning, I will be keeping them safe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,653 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    You should report it to the FBI.

    It's an absolute scandal that maisie45 was libelled in this way.

    A reputation painstakingly built up over 186 posts since January 2024 is at stake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭maisie45


    The facts are a serious allegation has been made against me.

    Sneer all you like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,653 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    Oh I'm suitably appalled don't worry. A VERY serious allegation was made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭maisie45


    As I said sneer away, enjoy the rest of your day, Im not engaging any further with you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,653 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    I'm not sure I'd call it the test of my day, but it certainly was enjoyable, thanks.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,131 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    all; maisie45 seems to have been banned before i saw the latest posts, so no need to respond to them!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    It drives me mad, because he has such a powerful platform. The likes of him, who have no interest in balanced discussion and seem to have embraced this brave new Trumpian world where the concept of journalistic integrity can be thrown out the window, are a huge reason why we have this idiotic 'cyclists -v- motorists' narrative in people's heads - ('you're either one of us or one of them'). A perfect example is driving up Windgates from Greystones to Bray last weekend with my father in the passenger seat, and he starts bemoaning the choice of a couple of cyclists to take the main road rather than the back road. I pointed out to him that, it's not that much of an inconvenience to just wait for a short period of time before pulling out and overtaking them. In the worst case scenario, what impact does it have on your day - 15/ 30/ 60 seconds? At the end of the day looking back, what would you have done with those 60 seconds that you didn't actually achieve? Just relax and stop seeing the world as a rat race where its everyone for himself against everyone else. And he had to concede that yes, he was over-reacting and while a spin via the back road is a nicer cycle there's often a good reason why someone doesn't choose the scenic route and they shouldn't have to explain their reasoning to every angry driver or or put up with aggressive driving over it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    Yeah there's lots that needs to change but the mentality of certain motorists that they urgently must get past a cyclist at all costs is really dangerous. I see it everyday, overtaking into oncoming traffic, going around a corner or 20 meters before a red light. Just chill the f*** out. You're going to be stopped in traffic in about 20 seconds anyway so it literally makes no difference to your day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,530 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Sounds like this may have been a murder - deceased had absconded from prison over the weekend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tc20


    I have to chime in here as Windgates is part of my daily commute.

    every day, without fail, there are numpties who think its fine to overtake either into oncoming downhill traffic; overtake at the crest (totally blind) or close pass when an extra 5-10 seconds would give them a safer overtaking opportunity.

    It really boils my piss, as one would think that the vast majority of people on their way to work are of reasonable intelligence. Put them behind a wheel though and, well you know the rest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭MangleBadger


    Same as this. I cycle it every Tuesday and Wednesday. This week after descending back into Greystones I was waiting to turn right at Lidl and as a Merc drive by the driver shouted out that I should get out of the middle of the road. I probably average 50kmh down that descent. I'm hardly slowing anybody down. Would he like me to try do that descent in the gutter?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,955 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I feel like cycling has made me almost a canary down the coal mine on things like this. Some friends roundly dismissed that there was an issue when I brought up the roads all last year. Phone use not that big a deal. I'm sure there are people who feel similar in here.

    My bike is out of action the last week and I've been getting public transport to work. The speed at which cars go down bus lanes which sometimes have people near the edge of the paths is insane. They shouldn't even be on them and are going 20-30 over the limit. This is around Northern Cross junction going each way. If a Garda wanted to get a few fish in a barrell in their 30 minutes it wouldn't be difficult but I've never seen one there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,530 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Bus lanes on all the major arteries in and out of Dublin should have policing every day.

    It would be good high visibility work that would increase the perception of policing being active on the roads, and it's of the type that would be roundly supported by the vast majority of motorists - never mind being supported by public transport users and cyclists as well. Unlikely to have a Michael Hearly Rae stand up in the Dáil to complain about the persecution of the poor hard-pressed bus-lane abuser.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,720 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Well it should be cameras imo, but if they were to do it, hopefully they wouldn't pull them off the bus lane into the cycle lane, which is pretty common when they bother on the N11!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,530 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Absolutely should be cameras - but in the absence of cameras, a mix of a few marked and unmarked garda cars just patrolling the main commuter routes and pulling in offenders would make a huge impact on driver behaviour overall.

    I was out for a run along the N11 near UCD one evening a few weeks ago. Traffic was quite busy - backed up from Fosters Avenue to the UCD underpass. There was a marked Garda jeep driving slowly up the bus-lane, watching for drivers on their phones. Looked like he was giving a just warning to any that he saw (which was fair enough when traffic was stopped).

    Made me think how much more effective it would be if there was a sense of unmarked garda cars in busy traffic on the patrol for offences.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,247 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Just stick a Garda on the 46A for a few hours. That's what they do in the UK. From the elevated position, they'll get a clear view of drivers using their phones. And they'll provide security to bus passengers too.

    What's not to like?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,530 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    How does that work from an enforcement point of view? Is the bus stopping to let the police officer off to take the drivers' details?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,247 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Nope, the Garda takes the reg number of the vehicle, in the same way that a Gatso van does. The fine goes to the registered owner, who has the option of nominating the driver, if it's not themself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    LOL… I got pulled over by a couple of Gardai a few years back, around Stillorgan inbound, asking "what did you say to me back there?". What had happened was exactly as you described, except as I was politely passing them another cyclist in club gear moving at a good rate of knots roared at them to get out of the ****in cycle lane… I did snigger to myself at the time and had to bite my tongue when they stopped me a couple of mins later… not a hope they'd have caught up with the offender!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,062 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Last time I seen them on the N11, the Gardai gave out to me for being in the bus lane, despite both the bike lane being full of cars in 500m and they were pulling cars into the bike lane.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,062 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Do they need to, photo, reg plate, job done.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,530 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    It loses the viability element of other motorists seeing someone having been pulled over by an unmarked car - so not sure it would be quite as good a deterrent. But all would help



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