Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Hard see any dairy startups being successful at the minute unless an entrant has a few €100k under the mattress they want to invest and 150+ acres of good owned land to start off on

Are sacrificed paddocks no longer acceptable under nitrates regulations, like the ring feeder in the one place for the winter and run off due to water quality.

If there's a bad slow set up milking. Then the next generation and even this one would consider quitting. If there's a good fast swift set up. It can coax everyone to go another 10, 20 years. Even down to parlour mats it means a lot.

But ICBF have it all sorted, use a team of at least 10 bulls to improve your chances of breeding a good one.

Like buying more lottery tickets will increase your chances of winning the big one.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/equal-use-of-bulls-across-herd-a-critical-element-in-breeding-icbf/

Why so? Doing 510kg solids on 1.5 tonnes meal and stocked over 3 doesn't seem like a post 170 recipe? That's where Lyons are at.

2.33 is basically what you can stock to at 220kgN/ha now

No they always looked at higher SR I think, at least for milking area. You can have any stocking rate you like if you count outside ground.

The output from the herd is very good but nothing too extraordinary at the same time. The underlying production costs are quite high, never mind the capital spend which is dreamland as far as smaller scale operators are concerned. They have basically put a high EBI cow on different systems and shown she can milk and go in calf. I dont see how that's too much different to what we knew already.

I would question how they are proving anything regarding scale.

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13 different friesan bulls being used here between heifers and cows. 4 for heifers 9 on the cows

Don’t see what the fuss is about tbh. Our herd is improving a bit every year and I’m happy with the stock. That’s what matters

I didn’t pick that many because ICBF said so either, what I picked have good ebis but I didn’t go chasing the new young hot shots. I picked them on my criteria and what I think is working here

They are doing 510kg however.

There is for and against with the "good" land, they suffer from the drought in summer. Heavier land that has been well drained can be far more productive.

what i cant understand is why amercian genomic proofs 90% of the time for any unproven bulls ive used always seem to mirror the bulls daughter proofs our outpreform them, the irish high ebi genomic bulls are still a lucky dip….

Its unbelivable the f and p the american/canadian ai bulls have risen by 4.4 plus bf and 4.4 pr at 13000 litres is been achieved by the latest bulls daughters

If the irish breeding program was working nationally 5% bf and 4 % pr herd averages should be the norm instead of the exception