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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I mean if Clarence gives POTUS immunity, Biden can just kill Clarence right? “Official act bro”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    If Clarence gives POTUS immunity, Biden could just have Trump killed for the sake of america.

    Save a lot of time and effort for all involved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    It's in a bond, so I presume so? Who paid for that bond?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    What has happened to the world? If I put that on the internet a few years ago I'd be afraid the next time I go to the US for being nabbed by the Feds for plotting the downfall of a former President. Here in 2024, people all over the internet are suggesting way worse things happen to both the former and the current president and nothing happens.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    Your wondering what happened to the world based on one of your own posts, or are you surprised that the black helicopters haven't arrived at yours yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,642 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I keep thinking about what I read online about Trump not trashing, or even mentioning, David Pecker.

    He must have some serious dirt on Trump.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Oh big time. I found this quite telling, "Even though we haven’t spoken, I’m seeing him, I still consider him a friend." They haven't spoke since 2019 apparently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,899 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I wonder if Trump was privy to some quality dirt on the likes of Linsey Graham.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ”wah I have to be in court but I want to campaign”

    When he can campaign:

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    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4621546-biden-campaign-trolls-trump-golfing-court/



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,215 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    You can get the audio here.

    I listened to it live. To their credit, both lawyers were very good (I have listened to a fair few SCOTUS oral arguments by now, both were well above average). Sauer did the best he could with a bad hand, and seems to have settled on playing for time instead of trying to go for the sweeping immunity previously claimed. Dreeban I caught making a mistake or two, to an extent actually supporting the Trump argument (to the surprise of, I believe, Gorsuch (the SCOTUS livestream doesn't put up captions), who then pressed him on the position).

    It seems pretty likely that the court is going to rule that actions taken outside of the scope of office are not going to be granted immunity. Dreeban made a very good point that the President has absolutely no role in the certification process of an election, and thus by definition, no action taken by him with respect to the recertification process could be covered as an official act. However, the process, if that is the ruling, is that it needs to go back down on remand for fact-finding as to whether any particular acts are official or unofficial, which is the 'play for time' ploy I mentioned. By the time that gets done, the elections will be over.

    That official acts will retain general immunity, at least absent impeachment also seems likely. Levels of immunity for government personnel acting in the course of their work go down to the level of street cops and ambulance workers, it's hardly a novel concept, and i just didn't hear leanings in questioning that enough judges disagreed with that concept.

    "Trumps appointees really seem to be leaning towards him even bringing up CIA and military actions carried out abroad and asking why previous presidents weren’t charged. What’s happened the US, even the Supreme Court seems to be having been corrupted by Trump."

    They were legitimate questions. Remember, just because the question is asked of counsel doesn't necessarily mean that the questioner disagrees with counsel, but it does provide counsel an option to place, on the record, where he believes the lines should be which can aid in finding an opinion acceptable to more judges. Note, the Trump appointees were pretty damned hard on Sauer as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    It was a rhetorical observation. No response necessary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,642 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Can't help but believe the date was scheduled to piss Trump off.

    .

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    An analyst on CNN was saying exactly that just last night. Considering all the people Trump has taken aim at on Twitter / X / Truth Social or at rallies, not a single mention of Pecker anywhere.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    But what other dirt could there be on Trump. There has been everything from cheating on the wife to attempted coup and he's still a potential candidate for president.

    Other than consequences finally catching up with him in a court, what tabloid level scandal could there possibly be that he thinks could sink his election prospects?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Maybe something on tape where he disses his voting base?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    People wishing harm to U.S. presidents be they sitting or former isn't anything new, and neither is someone acting on those wishes, though the latter have been rarely successful.

    It isn't even something unique to the U.S. , so unless the Feds are monitoring your posts on boards, I reckon you are safe enough.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,205 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The obvious one is abortion.

    Does he have evidence that Trump paid for an abortion on foot of another extra-marital incident?

    No evidence that he did, but I think that is probably the one thing that would damage him with a decent chunk of his base.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    Even if was the case, it would be unlikely to put them off him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    It would depend on when it occurred. There are pro life campaigners across the globe that claim to be so because they had an abortion and they are accepted and rolled out regularly.

    All he would have to say is that it was in the past and he got rid of roe because of it. Also he wouldn't be the first gop politician that has been found out paying for an abortion.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,205 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Might also depend on how many there were.

    Once is a "mistake" that might be explained away by a later Damascene conversion.

    Multiple incidents would be a lot harder for even the "Gods imperfect vessel" head-bangers to justify.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    "Multiple incidents would be a lot harder for even the "Gods imperfect vessel" head-bangers to justify"

    For a normal rational person yes, but you aren't taking about such in this situation, and as it was with Stormy and others, you would certainly see them try to justify it.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Even that might not be too big a deal for them to ignore at this stage. In 2016 I could see it being enough to sink him, but not sure even that would be enough now.

    That Trump hasn't been attacking the witness, and the witness clearly stating that he considers Trump a freind still despite mot having spoken in years definitely suggests something odd going on behind the scenes though. Not going to be broken by this case, but worth someone doing some digging into.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,493 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    The US Supreme Court met today regarding Trump’s claim for absolute immunity while president. It appears from arguments and discussions among the conservative justice majority, 3 of 6 appointed by Trump, that their ruling may take months before given. The 3 remaining justices of the 9 may file an opposing opinion, but this will be moot if the 6-3 majority delays their ruling into summer.

    This extensive delay “bigly” benefits Trump to where the time left before the 5 November 2024 election will not allow enough to try Trump on any 3 of the remaining criminal cases indicted. So the weakest one, the porn star hush money criminal trial that’s ongoing more than likely be the only one adjudicated before the election. Especially if the Trump appointed judge over the documents federal criminal case continues to delay that trial, which is likely.

    If Trump is re-elected, he can squash the two Smith prosecuted federal criminal indictments through his newly appointed Attorney General, just like the Russia investigation; or burp, and say “pardon me”, for all federal crimes committed since he was a bouncy baby boy.

    The remaining State of Georgia criminal case has already been terribly confounded by the DAs alleged affair with a prosecutor on her team, which may or may not be true. This scandal has resulted in delays also benefiting Trump. If re-elected, Trump could exercise executive privilege as the sitting president for 4 years, delaying Georgia prosecution, more than likely exhausting the impetus to try Trump, as well as the potential change of Georgia prosecutorial office holders.

    Highly doubtful that the other state criminal fraudulent electors cases will impact Trump before 5 November elections. The recent Arizona indictments did not name Trump, but the defendant number one is allegedly him. Such complexity can delay prosecution to once again “bigly” benefit Trump. If re-elected Trump will slip away accordingly.

    Of course all of this post has been made by Fathom, an arm chair legally uneducated speculator of Trump’s future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Let's check in on Mike Lindell, you'll wanna see this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,642 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Not sure why he wants to bring this up... Unless he's trying to regularise or encourage it?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    He's hoping his one man mob outside the courthouse will grow, and is probably feeling very let down by his MAGA mob having better things to be doing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,971 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Re: Trump & Pecker's friendship.

    Might be Trump is deathly afraid of Pecker because of all the other catch-and-kill stories Pecker has the rights to. Just because his company hasn't published them, doesn't mean he doesn't have the dirt. Their relationship might go back decades, probably does.

    Anyone know if Barron's had a DNA test? He could've been sired by Batboy! Enquiring minds want to know!



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