Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

And this is the problem really. The sad reality is that there is nobody on this forum, nor is there any generally significant body of the public or the political parties, who doesn't actually believe that migration needs to be controlled and the asylum system needs to be reformed.

The conversation on how you control it and how you reform it however is constantly being dragged down into the mire. It's never enough to simply ask: How do we come together to formulate a migration system that works for Ireland but is also cognisant of the realities of the world we live in and of the fact that no policy can be perfect and no policy on migration can exist without downsides?

That's the conversation we all want to have, but we can never get there because you find yourself having to wade through the hopelessly dramatic, paranoid, selective outrage that is hyper-focused on anything to do with migrants.

It always has to be THE GOVERNMENT IS DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY. Terrorists eveywhere. Creepy male refugees. Lefties want open borders with no controls. Society is falling apart. Doom. Posts dedicated to digging out every example of migrants doing bad things.

There is no room for finding a sustainable migration policy while people insist on extremifying it at every turn.

I haven't seen anyone here labelled far-right for questioning government policies. They are labelled far-right or racist when they fake post stats, links to far-right propaganda, negative generalization based on race or ethnicity, etc.

It's quite straightforward really.

This video is going back a few years but I think it's worth a look on why a lot of what's posted here can legitimately be considered far-right rhetoric.

Go back 12/24 months, and the ideals and concerns you now see posted in most mainstream media, the stuff that cannot be ignored anymore, were all shouted down as FAR RIGHT/BIGOT/RACIST by many very vocal people in Ireland and they would stick their head in the sand, rather than have a proper discussion.

Funny how now, currently, these same concerns are viewed by the cast majority of the country as standard and many of those same shouty folk now have the same concerns as the previously touted "FAR RIGHT".

Funny that. It's almost like they were right all along.

Crazy that someone as bad as Helen McEntee is in such a senior role.

I'm not sure how true it is that these are now the majority view. Doesn't appear to be reflected in polling for any parties that share these views.

Probably the term 'views' is even a bit of a stretch. We're talking slogans here essentially.

Might well be that there's a shift at some point further right in this country. It'll certainly be interesting if it happens, because the further right are not actually offering anything remotely feasible.

Please provide a link to these fake stats you speak of. Misinformation is in nobody's interest as it undermines an argument.

Also, there's lots of talk about the far right but it seems to me the average Irish person is centre or centre right with the trend skewing more right wing in the last year or so in line with the rest of Europe.

The far right in Ireland is a very small minority so I wouldn't be accusing every single poster here as being far right.

Left wing ideas are not in any way more morally correct than right wing ideas and historically the far left as in Stalin and Pol Pot have done every bit as much damage as the far right.

But the amount coming here with fake false documents or no documents even from safe countries is high, surely not all extreme cases, at present if you come here with no documents, fake false documents or unvetted you can still claim asylum or even run in local elections without knowing a thing about Irish politics, where is the detriment to stop this, the system is failing, McEntree and ROG and their departments are failing

We had a serial killer here for how long with fake false documents no vetting but that was made out as far right bs lies when true

The fingerprints only shows if already applied for asylum elsewhere previously I believe

It truly is astonishing how incompetent she is. Laid bare for all to see there. Absolutely shocking stuff. How can she still be Minister for Justice. Its infuriating.

That video or McEntee should be shared far and wide

I think a lot of people don’t fully realise just how unbelievably inept she is and that video lays it bare for all to see

It's not about whether anyone can speak great English or not. Even someone with the most fluent English will revert to their native language when they're around people who also share the same native language. It's totally understandable that that happens and they're not wrong for doing it. It's just an isolating experience for the person who doesn't understand it

and being kept there due her gender and not to rock the boat.

Maybe for some, but that's certainly not reflected in support for parties with these 'policies'.

As an illustration, I think we've too much immigration in the country too. So seemingly I'm part of the 80% that favors a shift further to the right and 'hard-borders'???